C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

noisy 4 speed trans

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 12:01 PM
  #1  
motorcar's Avatar
motorcar
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default noisy 4 speed trans

Hi guys, I just put together a basket job a 1979 vette and upon road testing. I find that the 4 speed trans is noisy in all of the gears except
4th. Is this normal? Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 12:38 PM
  #2  
bashcraft's Avatar
bashcraft
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,506
Likes: 139
From: Butler Pa
Default

Is it an M22?
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 12:43 PM
  #3  
motorcar's Avatar
motorcar
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

yes it is.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 12:52 PM
  #4  
bashcraft's Avatar
bashcraft
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,506
Likes: 139
From: Butler Pa
Default

Then it's normal.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:17 PM
  #5  
motorcar's Avatar
motorcar
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

They must have had alot of complaints when the car was new.
Is there any particular fluid I can use to calm down the noise alittle?
I have just regular penzoil 90wt in there now.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:22 PM
  #6  
bashcraft's Avatar
bashcraft
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,506
Likes: 139
From: Butler Pa
Default

It's because of the way the gears are cut. M22's have straight cut gears to reduce side loading which increases strength, but they're much noisier.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:23 PM
  #7  
bashcraft's Avatar
bashcraft
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,506
Likes: 139
From: Butler Pa
Default

BTW, I don't think m22's were used in 1979.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:33 PM
  #8  
Rich N.'s Avatar
Rich N.
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
From: Upper Darby PA
Default nosiy trans

if it's stock, it's an M-21.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 01:51 PM
  #9  
motorcar's Avatar
motorcar
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

The guy I got the car from tells me the trans is from a 1978.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:04 PM
  #10  
bashcraft's Avatar
bashcraft
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,506
Likes: 139
From: Butler Pa
Default

M22's were only produced from 1967-1974.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:44 PM
  #11  
motorcar's Avatar
motorcar
Thread Starter
5th Gear
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

Ok then, thanks for your help. Looks like I'm gonna have to pull it.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 02:49 PM
  #12  
bashcraft's Avatar
bashcraft
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,506
Likes: 139
From: Butler Pa
Default

I would check to make sure it's not an M22 first. The PO may be wrong. I have a document that should help you ID it. PM me your e-mail and I'll send it to you.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 05:19 PM
  #13  
Rich's'78's Avatar
Rich's'78
Racer
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 485
Likes: 1
From: Oakville ON
Default

Originally Posted by motorcar
The guy I got the car from tells me the trans is from a 1978.
I believe '78 and '79 used Saginaws. Mine is original, rebuilt when the engine was out (3-2 syncro shot), quiet before and after. If I remember correctly, Sags are easy to spot because they have an iron case and a 7 (?) bolt side cover.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 06:45 PM
  #14  
bluthundr's Avatar
bluthundr
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,223
Likes: 174
From: Fort Wayne IN
Default

Does it sound like this? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oBGnFzEgxk
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 09:52 PM
  #15  
gve's Avatar
gve
Drifting
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,331
Likes: 479
From: Appleton Wisconsin
Default

You could try some Lucas gear lube it quiets rear ends so it should help transmissions,
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:12 PM
  #16  
volition's Avatar
volition
Racer
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
From: Glendale AZ
Default

1978 and 1979 L48 cars had a Saginaw 4 Speed case number 3925656.

My 78 has a pronounced noise with it's saginaw in 3 out of 4 gears as well. Almost sounds like a supercharger whine.

I can't tell you if this is normal or not, just that mine definitley has the noise too.


They are referred to as a "muncie" because these oddball units were produced in Muncie, IN instead of Saginaw, MI. So they are Saginaws that are sometimes referred to as a Muncie by documentation.

I suspect it may be a result of a worn center bearing and possibly pilot.

Last edited by volition; Jan 6, 2010 at 11:19 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2010 | 11:15 PM
  #17  
WhiteC3's Avatar
WhiteC3
Racer
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 289
Likes: 0
From: Franksville Wisconsin
Default

I had one upon test drive the seller assured me its normal to make noise. I opened it up and center bearing was worn. Repalced it and all was quiet.Also good time to examine clutch system and replace ball stud, throw out fork and anything that is not perfect.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To noisy 4 speed trans





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:31 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE