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4 Speed Reverse Grind
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4 Speed Reverse Grind
With my Muncie T-22 It seems every time i go to put it in reverse just as it goes in i get a small gear grind. This is confusing because the clutch pedal is fully depressed so there should be minimal connection... I understand that the reverse gear has no syncros but should this problem exist? It shifts fine 1 thru 4 with clutch depressed. For now i have been avoiding this by putting in reverse before i start but thats not always an option...
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The grind into reverse (assuming you're not moving) is caused by the countershaft, input gear and clutch disk still spinning. Assuming that your clutch fully disengages and you're stopped, it should not be spinning unless you let the clutch pedal out in neutral. In that case, wait a few seconds for it to stop spinning and then into reverse, OR, with the clutch pedal depressed, select first or second gear momentarily and then quickly into reverse.
If the problem is still there, the clutch disk may be dragging even with the pedal fully depressed, and spins up when the shift lever is passing through neutral. In this case, check the clutch adjustment.
And if that didn't help, most likely your throwout bearing is installed incorrectly:
If the problem is still there, the clutch disk may be dragging even with the pedal fully depressed, and spins up when the shift lever is passing through neutral. In this case, check the clutch adjustment.
And if that didn't help, most likely your throwout bearing is installed incorrectly:
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Might be an indication of an upcoming problem also.
EDIT- Here is the GM clutch spindown test. This test indicates that the grinding should not happen even though you can stop it by going into any forward gear.
Last edited by ...Roger...; Jan 26, 2010 at 07:58 PM.
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How did they come up with nine?
I suppose 10 was too long, 8 was too short and 11 is right out..........
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1. Fill the center of the pilot bushing with heavy duty axle grease.
2. find a flat punch or chisel handle that is barely smaller than the inside diameter of the pilot bushing.
3. Position the punch over the grease in the hole
4. hit it with a rubber mallet-- the bushing pops right out due to hydraulic pressure in the grease! Enjoy!
Also, if i wait the nine seconds i get no grind so i believe it is all in working order. thanks again guys
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From: Schererville IN
9 seconds? That's just stupid! 
I had this same grind prior to replacing my clutch. After the clutch was replaced I get no grind what so ever. I tend to believe your clutch is not fully engaging.
I had this same grind prior to replacing my clutch. After the clutch was replaced I get no grind what so ever. I tend to believe your clutch is not fully engaging.
