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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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I just had a new 383 crate motor installed. The garage installed the temp unit in the intake manifold. The original 1970 motor was in the block.
They told me that that it has to go in the intake because it is a newer style block and my unit will not fit to this block.
I do not like the look of the wire going to the intake. Is there a way to make it work in the block like the original 1970 350
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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The stock sending units are in the head, not the block, and the new heads are drilled for a smaller/modern unit, but that will not do with the old meter/electricals.....so you are basically stuck with in the manifold or no temp gauge....unless you want to change gauges for more modern units....like I did, pix on my sites....

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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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I did find another sending unit from a later car that worked in my heads. I did this years ago and can't remember which one it was. I think the one from a later 80 or 81 Vette has the smaller threads and will fit the newer heads. I just went through this on another forum members car. We tried all different types of things from turning down the big sender to adding resistors. Nothing worked. I put my sender in his head and it worked great. I am putting newer gauges in mine so I just left it there. Work with your parts guy, a good one and the yshould be able to find a sender that will work with the old gauges.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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I'm with ya on my ZZ4 in my 72....If you find a correct sender that will fit in the head, and reads accurately..PLEASE POST it here!!

I dont care for it in the intake manifold either.

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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 03:49 PM
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You can use a sender for a later car, try one from an '80. It is smaller. People have varying luck with this, but it worked fine for me. It is close to right around 200 degrees.
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i think its a niehoff #TU66 sender, smaller pipe threat size, 3/8" autozone.

or WT359 orielly auto , had to buy one for new dart heads on my 79. i believe this is the one we got. i remember it fit an 82 vette
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My '81 has a smaller sensor. The crate motor that I bought had the heads with the large port, so I had the opposite issue. Fortunately for me, there is an adapter fitting that chokes it down, going the other way would not be so easy.

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This might help you out. I don't know if it will work or not as I bought one from a boat parts house. I had the same problem with my performance heads on my original '73 SB. Keep in mind that the sensor will not be entirely into the coolant stream so you might get a slightly inaccurate reading. I was also wondering if the plug in the top of the water plug could be used with the OEM sensor. If I can remember the boat supply house that I got mine from I will post.

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i think its a niehoff #TU66 sender, smaller pipe threat size, 3/8" autozone.

or WT359 orielly auto , had to buy one for new dart heads on my 79. i believe this is the one we got. i remember it fit an 82 vette
My new motor has Dart Iron Eagle Heads. I'll give this a try.
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Please post if this WT359 sending unit works for you. I have Corvette senders that fit in the 3/8" NPT tap in the head but none of them are compatable with the guage itself so I get temps that are way off in my '73. That's why I went with the correct sending unit and an adapter.
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Originally Posted by 08vycpe
Please post if this WT359 sending unit works for you. I have Corvette senders that fit in the 3/8" NPT tap in the head but none of them are compatable with the guage itself so I get temps that are way off in my '73. That's why I went with the correct sending unit and an adapter.
Just in case WT359 dose not work, were did you get the adapter.
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I made a nipple from 3/8 male to 1/2 female, it extend the sender 1.5" out but no changes needed, I used the original sending unit and Its work perfectly.
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Originally Posted by avner
I made a nipple from 3/8 male to 1/2 female, it extend the sender 1.5" out but no changes needed, I used the original sending unit and Its work perfectly.
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This is the best answer! It is very hard to get a new sender that is accurate, if your old one still works get the adapter.
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I drilled out and tapped my AFR heads to accept the old sender.
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Originally Posted by 08vycpe
Please post if this WT359 sending unit works for you. I have Corvette senders that fit in the 3/8" NPT tap in the head but none of them are compatable with the guage itself so I get temps that are way off in my '73. That's why I went with the correct sending unit and an adapter.
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Just in case WT359 dose not work, were did you get the adapter.
I got it from a boating supply store that I can't remember. You can get one for $10 from my earlier post. It is is Sunpro p/n zx528921w. Why make one when you can buy one for $10. The guage and the sender are a matched pair. A different sender may not be calibrated to the guage.
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Originally Posted by 08vycpe
I got it from a boating supply store that I can't remember. You can get one for $10 from my earlier post. It is is Sunpro p/n zx528921w. Why make one when you can buy one for $10. The guage and the sender are a matched pair. A different sender may not be calibrated to the guage.

I went to the Sunpro web site and could not find a part with that #
Could this be it http://www.sunpro.com/product_detail.php?pid=16336
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I tried to find one that would work the stock gage to no avail. I also have a 383 and what I ended up doing was having the stock sending unit turned down & threaded at work, screwed it in & works great. There is enough meat on the OEM unit to turn it down. Hope this helps as an option.
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Originally Posted by Sweet
I went to the Sunpro web site and could not find a part with that #
Could this be it http://www.sunpro.com/product_detail.php?pid=16336
No I don't think that's it. I'll have to remember from which boating supply house I got mine from.
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Originally Posted by avner
I made a nipple from 3/8 male to 1/2 female, it extend the sender 1.5" out but no changes needed, I used the original sending unit and Its work perfectly.
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I tried this too but it took 3 brass parts (adapter-nipple-adapter) to get from 3/8 male to 1/2 female and the sensor stuck out of the block at least 3". Readings were way off and the guage never raised above the first tick.
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Originally Posted by 08vycpe
I tried this too but it took 3 brass parts (adapter-nipple-adapter) to get from 3/8 male to 1/2 female and the sensor stuck out of the block at least 3". Readings were way off and the guage never raised above the first tick.
I used adapter 3/8 male to 1/2 male + nipple 1/2 female both sides then the sender unit & I cut little from each side of the adapter & the nipple, also I cut some thread from the inside of the nipple that I will get more room around the sending unit head. Total distance from the head to the sender contact is ~3" but it doesn't make any problem or fitting adjustment around it.
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