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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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I have a 81 with a automatic transmission, I purchased some u-joints today to replace the ones on the drive shaft. The joints I bought were for a automatic but they are way too big. I took them back to the parts store and this time took a old one with me an was surprised to find out that the u-joints recommended for a car with a manual trans matched the size of my old ones. Did GM switch up on the u-joints sizes for a automatic sometime during the production year? Weird
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Must be late production 81, as (dont hold me to it) Im thinking all 82s went to the larger joint. some one also could have upgraded them also...
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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I'm not sure but the big ones might be for the rear half-shafts, does anyone know if the half-shaft joints are a different size then the drive shaft? Tim
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There all the same on my 81 and the 77.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Thanks for your help. Maybe there is a problem with Summit's part numbers......Tim
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 08:50 PM
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the same thing happend to mine. the part stores say that the 6 u-joints are the same on the automatic. but the drive shaft are smaller. BTW mine is a late production 81 out of bowling green.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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71 bb has a smaller drive shaft u joint than half shaft. atleast on my auto car. the small block 71 cars had larger u joints in the drive shaft than the big block cars. go figure
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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On my 80 C-3 automatic, all the u-joints were the same size (large) except for the rear driveshaft joint which was smaller (shorter). When I went to buy new joints, every parts place: Autozone, Advance, NAPA etc. had the wrong info in their computer. We finally just had to go to the shelf and start opening boxes and compare to the old ones. I think it is a common problem on 80 thru 82.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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From general research on these cars ive read that 81 back to im thinking 75 or so.

auto/1310 drive shaft 1310 half shafts

Man 1310 drive shaft 1330 halfshafts

Not sure about further back when big blocks come into play.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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1350 half shaft
1330 drive shaft bbc (a least with auto trans)

1350 small block drive shaft not sure on half shafts
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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The u-joints I got that are too big are 1330s, I believe the correct ones are 1310s, this is on the drive shaft.
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Is there an easy way to unbolt the main driveshaft?
I tried but the lower plate is perfectly in the way.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim81
The u-joints I got that are too big are 1330s, I believe the correct ones are 1310s, this is on the drive shaft.
I bought all new Spicer Ujoints for my 4 spd 81 and got the 1310 for the drive shaft and 1350 for the halfshafts.
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Old Feb 11, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by snoopykissedlucy
Is there an easy way to unbolt the main driveshaft?
I tried but the lower plate is perfectly in the way.
Chock the front wheels
Raise the rear end and put axle stands under the frame allowing the wheels to turn freely
Put the tranny in neutral
use about 18 inches of extensions (3/8 drive is good) and use a 12 point socket (can't remember the size)
Undo the straps that hold the joints to the differential yoke and tranny output yoke
Struggle the driveshaft out

Lots of how-tos to explain how to replace the U-joint in the drive or half shafts. I'm a big fan of the cut off wheel method

Don't forget to put some locktite blue on the threads when you put it back together.
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Mine drive shaft and the half shafts were different size. I installed spicer. Do a search for a distributor in your area. They will have the correct info and size. I ran into the same BS with the local part stores not knowing what to use.
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Originally Posted by Rebelrob
Mine drive shaft and the half shafts were different size. I installed spicer. Do a search for a distributor in your area. They will have the correct info and size. I ran into the same BS with the local part stores not knowing what to use.
I had the same problem spicer drive shaft were 5-625X and half shafts were 5-627X. I got mine at a truck parts company.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Exactly............ I went to a truck parts store as well. Big trucks. They had spicer advertisment posters and banners all over the place. Nothing but mechanics there buying parts for there shops. I thought for sure they would flip me off when I told them what I was looking for. But he went to the back and got em. Had the Trans shop press them in.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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Well, I think its all figured out now, won't know for sure until I pull the half shafts. I guess the best thing to do is compare the new ones to your old ones before you buy them.
Thanks Everyone........Tim
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by snoopykissedlucy
Is there an easy way to unbolt the main driveshaft?
I tried but the lower plate is perfectly in the way.
CA is right, if you add enough extensions to your wrench you can reach the pinion yoke through the tunnel. My screw on the pinion yoke were two different sizes 1/4 inch 12-point and I'm sorry I can not remember the other size. If I get a chance I'll check and get back to you....Tim
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You can change the drive shaft 'U' joints on the drive shaft yourself but to do the half shafts you should bolt them together or get this tool or have a shop that has it do it for you as you can bend the half shafts and render them useless.

I have no stock or fincial interest in www.volvette.com but they are the only place I've seen this tool sold.
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