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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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well, finally decided to start planning on getting the vette back on the road and finishing the project, LOL. i am going to throw my big block in it, along with swapping out my auto for a 4 spd i have laying around. my question is, instead of using the old school linkage style clutch assembly, id like to try the Ram hydraulic throwout bearing. have any of you guys tried one of these? and going to a hydraulic setup, what kind of master cylinder should i use to hook up to this style of throwout bearing? also, any more ideas, or experiences/advise on doing this would be helpful!
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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why?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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I am not using a Ram TO bearing on mine but recently converted to Hyd TO bearing. I am using a LS1 style TO bearing on the front of a T56 transmission. I used a Tilton master cylinder with a 7/8 bore. This provides plenty of fluid and my pedal travel is quite short compared to the mechanical linkage. I have driven some other cars like mine and the travel is less with the hyd setup. The trick is to get the angle of the master cylinder rod right so it does not bind up.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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ok, thanks Gordonm, thats what im really wanting to do is use hydraulics. it seems to be easier to find hydraulic stuff, than to find all the old school linkages to swap out.

jnb5101, im wanting to run hydraulics, and my uncle had installed one of these Ram brand TOB in an old GTO, and he said it was a great product! i figured i could get a master cylinder from some newer model vette, then use this TOB so i wouldnt have to splice anything together so it wont fail later down the road, LOL
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Ram and a few others,(Howe,QM,Tilton) make/market a hydraulic bearing,don't know if one is better or worse,AFAIK they are all good units.Make sure you get one for a full size clutch,some are for mini 5.5" multiplate units.I've read where guys have used an early nineties GM truck master and rod,you maybe able to find it in the archives here.Check out some of the used circle track forum classifieds,you may find a slightly used one for a good price.
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ok, so i can actually use a master cylinder from a truck? and then run the hydraulic line to the throwout bearing, right?
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ok, so i can actually use a master cylinder from a truck? and then run the hydraulic line to the throwout bearing, right?
You can use whatever master cylinder you like. The key is to get the correct amount of fluid to the TO bearing. I had to shorten up the pedal travel since the master I am using has a lot of volume. Short pedal travel but it is very reactive. Some people don't like that. A small bore cylinder will not flow as much fluid and requires more pedal travel and less pedal pressure. The trick is to not overextend the TO bearing and push in the pressure plate to far.

To answer your question yes the line runs from the master to the TO bearing and the out line is a bleed line.
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A clutch master cylinder from a 1985 C30 1-ton pickup will align correctly on the firewall. You will have to modify the rod to make it adjustable. Some of the pics on the websites (AutoZone, Advance) show an adjustable rod but when you see the part it has a fixed rod. I've been through this myself. I happened to have an adjustable rod from a 2001 Camaro McLeod master cylinder that I was able to use in place of the truck rod.



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A clutch master cylinder from a 1985 C30 1-ton pickup will align correctly on the firewall. You will have to modify the rod to make it adjustable. Some of the pics on the websites (AutoZone, Advance) show an adjustable rod but when you see the part it has a fixed rod. I've been through this myself. I happened to have an adjustable rod from a 2001 Camaro McLeod master cylinder that I was able to use in place of the truck rod.



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Be careful with that. I believe the Ram hydraulic throwout bearing requires a 3/4" bore master cylinder just like my Howe hydraulic throwout bearing. That truck master cylinder bore is not 3/4".
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Old Mar 13, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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ok. are there any vehicle specific setups (like the 85 1 ton pickup) with the 3/4" bore that i could look into? or would i have to find a custom made one?
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