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Old Apr 30, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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How much static compression can I run on a 383, with aluminum heads, .041 quench with flat top pistons, with a Comp Cams XR276HR cam (224/230) and avoid detonation with pump gas ?

I know that the the cam intake duration establishes the intake closing point, but I don't know how to calculate the desired static compression based on the camshaft intake duration?
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Better than just giving you an answer, here's a good primer on theoretical Dynamic Compression Ratio which should help, and it includes a handy DCR calculator you can download...

http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html

Note that I refer to it as "theoretical" DCR, as actual DCR's = CR x VE% at a given RPM, which isn't so easily calculated, but IMCO it's still a good reference. That said, with that cam I'd shoot for ~8.0 - 8.25:1 DCR, since it's a good idea to leave some margin when VE's start getting up there (assuming good heads).


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Off the top of my head 10:1
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Originally Posted by sting66cp
How much static compression can I run on a 383, with aluminum heads, .041 quench with flat top pistons, with a Comp Cams XR276HR cam (224/230) and avoid detonation with pump gas ?

I know that the the cam intake duration establishes the intake closing point, but I don't know how to calculate the desired static compression based on the camshaft intake duration?

I don't believe static CR is based upon cam intake closing, this is for calculating dynamic CR.

Go to one of the sites where you can imput your specs and get the STATIC CR.

FWIW, I run a 383 with a CC XE274H cam, TF aluminum heads, static CR is 10.3, dynamic CR is a calculated 8.2. Runs fine on 89 octane. Never tried (or will I ever try) 87 octane.
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Originally Posted by TheSkunkWorks
Better than just giving you an answer, here's a good primer on theoretical Dynamic Compression Ratio which should help, and it includes a handy DCR calculator you can download...

http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html

Note that I refer to it as "theoretical" DCR, as actual DCR's = CR x VE% at a given RPM, which isn't so easily calculated, but IMCO it's still a good reference. That said, with that cam I'd shoot for ~8.0 - 8.25:1 DCR, since it's a good idea to leave some margin when VE's start getting up there (assuming good heads).

Good advise everyone, the calculator was very helpfull. The Piston I picked out provides 9.99 static and 8.07 dynamic compression ratio with this cam.
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Good advise everyone, the calculator was very helpfull. The Piston I picked out provides 9.99 static and 8.07 dynamic compression ratio with this cam.
Wow I was way off

Seriously that's where you want to be you can run 91 octane at that DCR level. Be careful at first, start with the best gas and low timing then crank the timing up if no pinging you can try 91, mine runs on 91 no problems with a bit higher compression bit because of the cam the DCR is about the same
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I run that same cam in my 406. My mathematical compression ratio worked out to 9.92/1, and on premium pump gas I have no issues whatsoever. I can't remember the dynamic CR but I'll look for it and report back.
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
Wow I was way off

Seriously that's where you want to be you can run 91 octane at that DCR level. Be careful at first, start with the best gas and low timing then crank the timing up if no pinging you can try 91, mine runs on 91 no problems with a bit higher compression bit because of the cam the DCR is about the same
Motorhead, If you can't provide more accurate information than that, then please don't reply !!!!

OK, seriously, thanks for the advise...
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