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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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I have an 82 vette. The pressure relief valve on the AC compressor released an excess amount of refridgerant all over the engine. Evidently my mechanic put in too much R-134A (over 4 pounds). I am now told by a new mechanic that I need a new compressor. Is this true? Thank you.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Not necessarily, connect the gauges and run the pressures, that will tell you.
That is one reason why the relief is there.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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The new mechanic also told me that the compressor may overheat now and catch on fire.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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I think that unlikely. He probably wants a piece of the $$$. Let him adjust the charge and give it a try, you have little to lose IMHO..
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ok -here is an update on my situation. I am pulling 300psi on the high side so I am told that I have a restriction in the system. But do I have to change the compressor, drier/receiver and orifice and then flush the entire system? Thanks
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Old May 28, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Well I guess with 300, your compressor is ok then.

You need to know the low side pressure as well to acurately diagnose it.
Could be as simple as a dirty condenser or a bad fan clutch causing lack of air flow. Have him mist water over the condenser and read the pressures.
Is this a 2nd mechanic?
My experience with northern a/c mechanics usually isn't great. They really don't get nearly the experience with a/c as we do down here. Mechanic is blowing smoke so far. Find another that specializes in a/c. The cooler the ambient is, the less accurate the charging is. Sounds like that's what happened the first time.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Not only is the reading 300 psi on the high side, but the temperature I measured coming out of the vents is close to 32 degrees. I noticed the compressor shuts off when the temp reaches this mark. Furthermore, the line (high pressure) between the compressor and drier/receiver is just about iceing up. Any thoughts? Thank you
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Originally Posted by biaggio
Not only is the reading 300 psi on the high side, but the temperature I measured coming out of the vents is close to 32 degrees. I noticed the compressor shuts off when the temp reaches this mark. Furthermore, the line (high pressure) between the compressor and drier/receiver is just about iceing up. Any thoughts? Thank you
That is the compressor suction line (low pressure), not high pressure and 300 is well within the parameters under certain conditions for 134. Your description of the system operation is ideal, if it was anything other than an 82 c3. Evaporators are supposed to operate at 32° for optimal results.
I suspect your testing method giving you misleading results.
So again, what were the other conditions, the low side pressures, engine rpms, ambient temp, a/c control settings, door window and hood positions, shade or full sun. Preferrably pressures at idle and and 2000 rpm.
What temp does the line feel like just before the oriface tube?

Without the info, you will get a whole spectum of possibilities, some of which may be correct, but it will be guesswork and you are the one footing the bill.
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Originally Posted by noonie
That is the compressor suction line (low pressure), not high pressure and 300 is well within the parameters under certain conditions for 134. Your description of the system operation is ideal, if it was anything other than an 82 c3. Evaporators are supposed to operate at 32° for optimal results.
I suspect your testing method giving you misleading results.
So again, what were the other conditions, the low side pressures, engine rpms, ambient temp, a/c control settings, door window and hood positions, shade or full sun. Preferrably pressures at idle and and 2000 rpm.
What temp does the line feel like just before the oriface tube?

Without the info, you will get a whole spectum of possibilities, some of which may be correct, but it will be guesswork and you are the one footing the bill.
Noonie is correct. On the back of the compressor there are two lines. The one that goes to the condenser in front of the radiator is the hot gas line and it is high pressure vapor line. The one that goes to the evaporator under the dash is the suction line low pressure vapor. The line that connects condenser to evaporator is the liquid line, high pressure liquid but lowered temp.. If the suction line is icing it can be caused by restricted air flow as in your other thread, my post, or partially stopped up metering device. The metering device whether orifice, expansion valve or other causes the high pressure liquid in liquid line to change to a lower pressure vapor by restricting flow of refigerant and this produces cooling effect. Too much restriction can produce
too high high side pressure. As noonie stated most bad compressors will not pump up to 300lbs. of pressure. Air flow across evaporator prevents freezing of evaporator which is connected to the line you reported as being almost freezing. Hope this helps you repost with futher observations. mike...

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I did a lot of AC work, in the late 70s and 80s. Most of it was on GMs fixed oriface tube design. A rule of thumb back then, was to charge the system slowly and keep an eye on the evaporator. Watch for the frost to occur, but when the frost just starts to disappear you are Full. 95% of the time this held true. If you have 32 degrees at a vent temp. you do not have a restriction.
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