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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 11:05 PM
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I have a '70 L-46 that has the original engine and, I was told, original transmission. When looking to purchase the car, I checked the engine, but not the transmission. I was expecting an M21, but once I disassembled the car for resto-mod I found its an M22.



What's confusing me is that according to "Corvette by the Numbers" this is a '65 M22. Thebook states that there were 57 1965 M22 transmissions built. My questions are 1. Is the reference to 57 M22s for corvette-installed M22s?; 2. Is there any way to determine whether this M22 is from a vette as opposed to coming from a different model?; and 3. In that I'm interested in putting in a 5-speed, what range of resale value is there? Thanks!




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what makes it an M-22 and not an M-20?
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Old Jun 23, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
what makes it an M-22 and not an M-20?

Your casting numbers say 1965.
Your input shaft looks like a 1965 M20.
Have you taken off the side cover to see if the internals
have been retrofit to an M22?
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Per the book, based on the exterior codes it should be a M22 or M21. However, the book cites that from '63 to '69 the only Muncie transmission drilled for a drain plug was the M22. Prior to taking the car aparrt, when I drove the car the transmission had a pronounced whine. Additionally, it also has a 10 spline input, 26 spline output, and no groove.

I understand that's not a very iron-clad case, but that's sort of why I started asking questions. The information I've found doesn't seem very definitive for this time period. Not knowing anything about transmissions, I didn't want to open up the case. However, I just went ahead and did it. It looked to me that the gear teeth are somewhere near 45 degrees. As such, I imagine if it is an M22 case that the gear set has been swapped. Any thoughts? I'm mostly wanting information on what to do with it once I've replaced it. In that it's not original I have no desire to keep it so I need to have an idea of what it is. BTW, I'm still interested about the use of '65 M22s. In looking into this I've seen websites that don't list M22s until '67.
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Originally Posted by mr. creosote
, I didn't want to open up the case. However, I just went ahead and did it.
post a good pic it`s easy to tell
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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The casting numbers do not indicate M22 and your visual inspection of the gear teeth do not indicate M22.

Is there a partial VIN code stamped on the main housing?
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Originally Posted by mr. creosote
Per the book, based on the exterior codes it should be a M22 or M21. However, the book cites that from '63 to '69 the only Muncie transmission drilled for a drain plug was the M22. Prior to taking the car aparrt, when I drove the car the transmission had a pronounced whine. Additionally, it also has a 10 spline input, 26 spline output, and no groove.

I understand that's not a very iron-clad case, but that's sort of why I started asking questions. The information I've found doesn't seem very definitive for this time period. Not knowing anything about transmissions, I didn't want to open up the case. However, I just went ahead and did it. It looked to me that the gear teeth are somewhere near 45 degrees. As such, I imagine if it is an M22 case that the gear set has been swapped. Any thoughts? I'm mostly wanting information on what to do with it once I've replaced it. In that it's not original I have no desire to keep it so I need to have an idea of what it is. BTW, I'm still interested about the use of '65 M22s. In looking into this I've seen websites that don't list M22s until '67.
Your photos don't allow inspection of a drain plug (that's a fill plug in the case photo - drain plug would be at the bottom.
Still looks more like an M20. You could tell M20/M21 by the tooth count OR by simply turning the input shaft and figuring out the gear ratio.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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If your trans is original you will find part of your VIN number stamped into the case. I don't remember exactly where to look but I did find the number on my 4-speed.



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