Steeroids....non power capable?
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Instructor
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Steeroids....non power capable?
I have installed a Steeroids rack and pinion, is it possible to run this as a manual system, non power steering? Just wondering if anyone has done this.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Kalispell MT
They make a manual only system. Did buy the power system? There is a different arm between the 2 kits and of course minus the hoses etc.
I'm running the manual system on my '70 and I love it.
I'm running the manual system on my '70 and I love it.
Burning Brakes
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From: Kalispell MT
I'm using an aftermarket 14" steering wheel and yes parking is more difficult, but I speed a lot more time on the road than finding a parking space, and I love the highway manners of the manual system over power.
Yes you can buy the added parts and make it power later, but I have no idea how much more $ it would cost. Also if you spring for a nice serpentine system it will have to be upgraded too.
My manual Steeriods with a MillerSpeed serpentine system makes for a very clean set up.
Yes you can buy the added parts and make it power later, but I have no idea how much more $ it would cost. Also if you spring for a nice serpentine system it will have to be upgraded too.
My manual Steeriods with a MillerSpeed serpentine system makes for a very clean set up.
Burning Brakes
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From: Finland
I'm using an aftermarket 14" steering wheel and yes parking is more difficult, but I speed a lot more time on the road than finding a parking space, and I love the highway manners of the manual system over power.
Yes you can buy the added parts and make it power later, but I have no idea how much more $ it would cost. Also if you spring for a nice serpentine system it will have to be upgraded too.
My manual Steeriods with a MillerSpeed serpentine system makes for a very clean set up.
Yes you can buy the added parts and make it power later, but I have no idea how much more $ it would cost. Also if you spring for a nice serpentine system it will have to be upgraded too.
My manual Steeriods with a MillerSpeed serpentine system makes for a very clean set up.
Last edited by Vesa; Jul 23, 2010 at 06:16 AM.
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From: Charleston SC
I'm using an aftermarket 14" steering wheel and yes parking is more difficult, but I speed a lot more time on the road than finding a parking space, and I love the highway manners of the manual system over power.
Yes you can buy the added parts and make it power later, but I have no idea how much more $ it would cost. Also if you spring for a nice serpentine system it will have to be upgraded too.
My manual Steeriods with a MillerSpeed serpentine system makes for a very clean set up.
Yes you can buy the added parts and make it power later, but I have no idea how much more $ it would cost. Also if you spring for a nice serpentine system it will have to be upgraded too.
My manual Steeriods with a MillerSpeed serpentine system makes for a very clean set up.
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Burning Brakes
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I think you are wrong.
They do have fewer turns lock to lock, but they have less travel too.
Check the archives, when we were prototyping this system, MrVette, Twinturbo, Norval and me one of us, I forget who, determined that the ratio, and therefore the effort, was actually the same between the rack and the stock system.
Assuming Steeriods is using the Grand Am sport rack that is.
The non sport rack will be easier because it has more turns lock to lock.
They do have fewer turns lock to lock, but they have less travel too.
Check the archives, when we were prototyping this system, MrVette, Twinturbo, Norval and me one of us, I forget who, determined that the ratio, and therefore the effort, was actually the same between the rack and the stock system.
Assuming Steeriods is using the Grand Am sport rack that is.
The non sport rack will be easier because it has more turns lock to lock.
Instructor
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From: SF Bay Area CA
I installed Steeroid's power rack and drove it without hooking up power steering pump. It was harder to steer at low or near no speed than the stock non power set up. At speed on highway very nice. Hitting the curves at decent speed, had to fight steering wheel a bit.
Hooked up power steering pump and drove. Very nice and easy to steer in parking situations. In corners, steering responsive and secure. At speed on highway, a little darty or to responsive. Easily can get use to. I think it would be perfect if I can reduce power steering pump output by about 25-30%.
Does anyone know of a reducing valve for stock pump?
Hooked up power steering pump and drove. Very nice and easy to steer in parking situations. In corners, steering responsive and secure. At speed on highway, a little darty or to responsive. Easily can get use to. I think it would be perfect if I can reduce power steering pump output by about 25-30%.
Does anyone know of a reducing valve for stock pump?