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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Anyone ever used or replaced a 30cc accelerator pump assy for a Holley carb with the bigger 50cc pump? If so how did it work--any problems? Thanks for any experiences with one of those pumps.
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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I put a 50 on my Holley to help fix a lean stumble problem I had when I stomped on the throttle. That plus 2-up squirters fixed the problem. I recommend you buy a set of cams while you're at it to adjust the "speed" and duration of the squirt.
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I put a 50 on my Holley to help fix a lean stumble problem I had when I stomped on the throttle. That plus 2-up squirters fixed the problem. I recommend you buy a set of cams while you're at it to adjust the "speed" and duration of the squirt.
That is the problem I seem to have. Mash on it and it goes fine to a point and then seems to lean out and stumbles just a tad. Pump kit I think comes with two cams.
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Originally Posted by MN80Vette
I put a 50 on my Holley to help fix a lean stumble problem I had when I stomped on the throttle. That plus 2-up squirters fixed the problem. I recommend you buy a set of cams while you're at it to adjust the "speed" and duration of the squirt.
Same here on my 950 Quick Fuel.....used the standard cam that comes with the kit. The larger cam is for the 4500 series (Dominator) carbs.
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RIO68
Anyone ever used or replaced a 30cc accelerator pump assy for a Holley carb with the bigger 50cc pump? If so how did it work--any problems? Thanks for any experiences with one of those pumps.
50CC is only needed on large ci motors with tunnel rams or large single planes with radical cams.

Other than that they are a waste of gas, plug fouling, and big blasts of black smoke when ever you floor your car.

IMO - the best setup is the all four barrel squirters set so the slightest movement causes them to dribble. You need to look for the cure not a half *** band aid. You need to look at instant squirt, power valve #, booster type and size, and air bleed system
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RIO68
That is the problem I seem to have. Mash on it and it goes fine to a point and then seems to lean out and stumbles just a tad. Pump kit I think comes with two cams.
Does it lean out, or maybe go rich? Note my dyno plots. Note that in the second plot the stumble is accompanied by a rich spike (~10:1), probably as the secondaries open/squirt. And lest you think this is just my engine, there are plenty of similar examples to be found on the 'net and even in this forum.


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I have the 50cc pumps front and back on my 825 Drag Race Demon on my 427ci small block. Put them on while trying to fix a problem that ended up being something else. They work fine but I have 600+HP motor. Even then I probably don't need them
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I had the same problem on my speed demon 750. Lars told me to go up 2 sizes on the squirters and make sure the timing was good. Did the trick, no stumbles no problems.
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Thanks for some insight--don't have a radical engine so it must be something else. Haven't had it on a dyno so I don't know what it looks like on a chart or the air/fuel ratio it's running. Did move up on the fuel nozzle. I'm running a 4175 model spreadbore that is 650 cfm.
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I had installed a 50 cc kit on a 3310. Changed to a white ramp, green spring on the air valve, 41 squirter with the screw with the drilled hole, a 6.5 power valve, Performer RPM in a 350 c.i. automatic 1963 Acadian SD drag car. I could flat foot that car from idle to full throttle with no stumble. Great set up. Lasted 3 years till I had the urge to go faster...

As a tip, if you start experimenting with jets, a complete jet kit from Mopar is considerably cheaper. Only Dodge part that I had on that Pontiac.

Dano,
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