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So then, the car was balancing on two points? The one remaining tire on the ground and the jack? I'd sure like to see that one.
Yep, if I cranked up my jack all the way, both tires on one side would be well in the air, and one tire on the other side would be just barely touching the ground (lightly enough that I could still remove the wheel). It was a very lightweight car with a short wheelbase. Feel free to look up pics and specs on Acura Integras.
but if flex in that direction is dramatic, it would be a good idea to check the condition of the frame. If we can't agree on that, I am willing to agree to disagree.
I think all we disagree on is really the definition of "dramatic" in the paragraph above. Once again in my opinion, a flexing that is apparent to the naked eye without the use of any measuring device is dramatic and needs attention. A flexing that could potentially cause damage and/or binding to to things attached to the frame is dramatic and needs attention. That is all I'm saying. I'm done.
From: Who says "Nothing is impossible" ? I've been doing nothing for years.
If I have mine on jack-stands for more than a few minutes I put another jack under the front cross-member under the motor. I don't put much pressure on it but there is allot of weight just hanging there in front of the two forward jack-stands because of the motor, wheels etc
If I have mine on jack-stands for more than a few minutes I put another jack under the front cross-member under the motor.
I use 6 stands if the car is up for any length of time...I place my front stands under the front sway bar mount to frame. when placing them I jack the front up just enough to relieve the "Tension", my doors open and close when I do this.
It's going to depend on exactly where you jack as well as the weight distribution of the vehicle, but with most cars the wheel on the same side front or back will also lift. My experience is the same as Motorhead's...
I used to have an Integra that would lift 3 wheels in the air with 1 jack.
Metal only cracks if it's loaded past its yield point. And guess what, keep taking material out of the frame via rust, and what is left will eventually crack. Of course all frames will have some degree of flex, but if it's enough to see with the unaided eye or enough to bind up and/or damage things attached to it (e.g. doors) then that is too much. And the fact that there are some cars which do this and some which don't sends a very clear and obvious message to me.
Metal fatigue will cause a crack, if a frame is loaded beyond it's "yeild point" on a daily basis, or just twisted for 30 years it will probably crack too.
The factory put jack supports in the frame if the frame sags and the doors do not shut when jacked up it will flex when driven and is not safe to drive.