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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Would anyone have a link, or maybe be able to descibe to me how you can measure the cc volume in the chamber of a cylinder head? I have a set of aluminum big block heads I bought from a friend. They started out as 115cc open chambers, but my friend said they have been milled quite a bit. He couldn't remember what they are now. Id like to know so I can figure up compression ratio for my engine. Thanks for the help!
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You need something like this. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-911581

You place the fluid in a measured buret. Then you use the plexiglass peice with some grease on it to seal off the chamber. then you let the fluid flow in until it fills up the chamber. At that point you measure the fluid that was used to fill it and that is the head cc. You can build something similiar by buying some plexi and getting a buret and stand.
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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I was watching a show a few days ago, believe on the Science Channel but not sure, where a NASCAR engine was being built. Really cool. In order to qualify the engine, they have to measure the CC of every cylinder as described above.
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Don't have a link, but done this a few time's. Lay the head's on their backside with a spark plug installed. Lay a piece of clear plexiglass over a chamber with a hole drilled in it, sealed with Vasoline. Pour in liquid(usually alcohol w/dye) from a measured container such as a lab graduated cylinder or buret until flush with glass bottom. Pretty much about it.
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Awesome! Thanks for the replys guys!
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Old Dec 14, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette5.5
Don't have a link, but done this a few time's. Lay the head's on their backside with a spark plug installed. Lay a piece of clear plexiglass over a chamber with a hole drilled in it, sealed with Vasoline. Pour in liquid(usually alcohol w/dye) from a measured container such as a lab graduated cylinder or buret until flush with glass bottom. Pretty much about it.
That's exactly what I did. I used a marked 10cc syringe to measure (available at pharmacy, or ask your doctor for one next time you visit).
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Originally Posted by blively
Awesome! Thanks for the replys guys!
Good luck and that is what the forum is for. I have cc'd heads before, but mainly after milling to make sure the desired cc was obtained.
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Quick question for y'all, does it matter if I use grease or vasaline to seal off the chamber? Or does it really matter what I use? Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by blively
Quick question for y'all, does it matter if I use grease or vasaline to seal off the chamber? Or does it really matter what I use? Thanks for the help!
Either one works. You just want something that you can clean off later, but will seal the fluid in the chamber.
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Ok cool thanks for the help! I picked up a small piece of plexiglass, now just need to drill a hole in it and try it out!
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For an inexpensive measuring tool get youself one of these

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=h...w=1020&bih=640
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Originally Posted by sstocker31
For an inexpensive measuring tool get youself one of these

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=h...w=1020&bih=640
i think i may know where one of those are.... thanks for the image, im going to dig around and see if i can find one
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If you're going to be precise with your aluminum cylinder heads, should you consider polishing the domes? I have some Brodix aluminum BB heads (Big Brody) and not only with the rough sandcasting dome texture, there's a little flange between the intake and exhaust valve. Seems that to do the best job, you want to polish the heads and then balance them.

My apologies if my response is a little variant from the how to measure head volume.
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When you are calculating compression ratio, don't forget to add the compressed head gasket volume and the recess depth of the piston down in the bore. A lot of guys forget this and wind up getting less compression than they think they have. You also have to add or subtract any pop-up or recess in the piston dome.
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Did you measure them yet? Need pictures?

http://www.diyporting.com/cc.html






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Not yet, I thought I had syringes that measured cc's, but they measured half cc's! Lol! I'll be getting a syringe tomorow that'll measure cc's
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Ok, got one measured and it ended up being 126cc's
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Ok, got one measured and it ended up being 126cc's
Wow that is a big chamber.
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That what I was thinking too! My friend I bought these from told me these were milled way down, almost to where it had a smaller chamber than a closed chamber..

So unless I did this wrong, this seems off to me...
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Originally Posted by blively
That what I was thinking too! My friend I bought these from told me these were milled way down, almost to where it had a smaller chamber than a closed chamber..

So unless I did this wrong, this seems off to me...
How did you do it? Did you seal the plexi with grease, insert a spark plug, and only drill a hold to add fluid in the plexi? Additionally, you would have the head flipped upside down and the hold will be at the highest point so air can escape out as you add fluid in.

What work did they have done to them? It is a chance they were not milled properly and if the chambers were ported heavily they could have just add cc's instead of taking away.
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