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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 04:12 AM
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In the middle of checking valve to piston clearance on a 350 I noticed something a bit strange...

On a side note, valve to piston clearance was about .250" when checked parallel to the valve stem. When checking the clay depth at an angle it was much less. Unless the valve develops radial slop, I think the motor will be ok.

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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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you got a piston there bro thats missing a valve relief
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 07:03 AM
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You're missing a cylinder head and intake.
What do I win?
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Two pistons on both sides in wrong bores. Exhaust reliefs not inline with exhaust ports? mike...
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 07:35 AM
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6 and 8 are switched

1 and 7 are switched
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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left bank pistons in right bank. or the pistons are in upside down

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You've got a plugged hole on that block.
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6 and 8 are switched

1 and 7 are switched
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Originally Posted by mds3013
Two pistons on both sides in wrong bores. Exhaust reliefs not inline with exhaust ports? mike...

Correct....
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Originally Posted by GS023
6 and 8 are switched

1 and 7 are switched
and very correct!
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So the real question is what now? Obviously this isn't correct, but the motor ran well and has plenty of valve to piston clearance as it sits.

What am I gaining by correcting this? - I would do new rings, bearings, and machine work if necessary during the piston swap. So there is some cost involved.

What am I loosing by leaving the bottom end this way?

Thoughts please
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Originally Posted by Cory1970
So the real question is what now? Obviously this isn't correct, but the motor ran well and has plenty of valve to piston clearance as it sits.

What am I gaining by correcting this? - I would do new rings, bearings, and machine work if necessary during the piston swap. So there is some cost involved.

What am I loosing by leaving the bottom end this way?

Thoughts please
I would pull the pan to see if the connecting rods are in the wrong place also. Since the motor has been in to it is possible that the rods are stamped.
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Not only that.....but its possible the rod taper (the side facing the crank chamfer) was placed incorrectly(backwards).

Look at it as a sign from God........time to rebuild the short block. Total cost for someone else to build it right with your parts.......about $500 in Dallas, TX.
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Originally Posted by GS023
I would pull the pan to see if the connecting rods are in the wrong place also. Since the motor has been in to it is possible that the rods are stamped.
Assuming they are stamped correctly and just in the wrong holes, what will be gaining by correcting this issue? Power? Peace of mind?

My first reaction was "yank it out!" It just feels dirty and wrong.. yuck! On the other hand, the motor ran well as is.
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Originally Posted by snoopykissedlucy
Not only that.....but its possible the rod taper (the side facing the crank chamfer) was placed incorrectly(backwards).
Very good point!

You have convinced me. I will pull the short block this weekend and report back with pics.
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Originally Posted by snoopykissedlucy
Not only that.....but its possible the rod taper (the side facing the crank chamfer) was placed incorrectly(backwards).

Look at it as a sign from God........time to rebuild the short block. Total cost for someone else to build it right with your parts.......about $500 in Dallas, TX.
If this were the case it would not have run very long, if at all.
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It's a Ford.

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Also possible that the rods are in proper place but have incorrect piston on them. I had to pull and correct a 396 one time because the guys put the drivers side pistons in upside down. They could not figure out why it would not turn one complete revoultion. good luck with it, mike...

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Since the motor is almost out at this point, I may as well pluck it and take a look.
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Originally Posted by mds3013
Also possible that the rods are in proper place but have incorrect piston on them. I had to pull and correct a 396 one time because the guys put the drivers side pistons in upside down. They could not figure out why it would not turn one complete revoultion. good luck with it, mike...

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You already have your fame and glory, but I can offer you my prized goat..
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