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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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Hi Everybody!

I've been "Dormant" on the Corvette over the winter-months. Spend the time
working on the house :-/
Now I'm back and guess what- I'm going to sell the house and move to NJ.
The Vette comes along for the ride of course. Actually for the first couple of
months I'll be working in NJ and living in PA. That gives me a 1.5hr commute.
Looking forward to it :-D
Now my question: I got a Holley on my 69 427/390. What are the emissions
laws in NJ for a 69? can I register as a Classic or Antique?
Advantages/Disadvantages?
BTW: I'm going to work in Lawrenceville (close to Princeton) any good areas
out there to buy affordable housing? (I'd rather spend the money on the
Vette :-D)

Thanks!

Stefan
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Moving to NJ - Emissions rules (Stefan69)

you can register for QQ plates, which makes you inspection exempt.

on a side note: were you forced to move to jersey?
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Stefan, gald to see you made it back. Do you have a copy of the club roster. We have some guys with different years that live in NJ. Maybe one of them can help you too. Let me know, if not I can email or IM you some names/numbers
Chris
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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Metal_Wulf: What are QQ plates?? Never heard of them.... can I drive any
day, any time with them? Can I got insurance with them, even considering
that I'm a foreign national? And no- I wasn't 'forced' to move to Jersey. I just
got a great job-opportunity there :D Could NOT refuse! Maybe in future I can
actually afford the hobby :blueangel: Why are you asking? Don't you like it in
Jersey?

Dukman: Yupp. I'm back. Good thinking about the club-members.... I will look
up the roster. See ya Friday ;)

Stefan
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Stefan - so what's in Lawrencville besides the boarding school?

QQ plates are for a "historic vehicle", which has to be 25 years old. The law sounds restrictive, ie you can only use the vehicle for "education or exhibition" . I have also been told you aren't supposed to drive at night, but I can't find that in the statute or regualtions. As a practical matter, if you are not using the vehicle to commute to work every day and clock less than, oh, say.... 5,000 miles per year you can probably get by with historic registration = QQ plates. It is so much easier than regular registration with the inspection (which is now every 2 years). I have never heard of anyone being ticketed for "improper use of vehicle with QQ plates". There is also another level of registration if you limit your mileage - less frequent inspection - but I dont know the details of this one off the top of my head.

Oh, and good luck with housing. You may be shocked at how high prices are. The entire area around Princeton is considered "desireable" = expensive!! MJ

Here is the statute: Note also, another benefit is you do not have to use a front plate!! :)

As used in this act:

"Historic motor vehicle" shall mean any motor vehicle which is at least 25 years old and which is owned as a collector's item and used solely for exhibition and educational purposes by the owner;

"Director" shall mean the Director of Motor Vehicles.

L.1964, c. 195, s. 1.

39:3-27.4. Historic motor vehicles; registration, license plates, display
2.Any owner of an historic motor vehicle who is a resident of this State may register such motor vehicle under the provisions of this act. Application for registering an historic vehicle shall be on forms prescribed by the director. Upon proper application and payment of the prescribed fee, the director shall issue a special nonconventional registration and special license plate for each historic motor vehicle registered in this State. Such registration and license plate shall be valid during the period of time that the vehicle is owned by the registrant. The fee for such registration and license plate shall be $25.00. The license plate shall bear the word "historic" and shall be of such design and colors as the director may determine. Notwithstanding the provisions of R.S.39:3-33 or any other law to the contrary, an owner of a vehicle registered as an historic vehicle, or any vehicle manufactured before 1945, shall not be required to display more than one special license plate issued for that vehicle, which plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle.




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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Jack:

That was extremely valuable information. Since I'm not planning on driving her
to work every day -I'm going to drive her every OTHER day tops :D- I think
the QQ plates are the way to go. HELL! No emissions and such :D:D:D:D
I will just have to find an appartment with a BIG garage now :smash: :smash:

Thanks everybody!

Stefan
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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Hey Stefan,
As long as your car is tuned up properly you should not have any problem passing NJ emissions testing. I also have an L36. It runs strong and fast and I passed the tests with plenty of room to spare. HC was almost half the max allowable and CO was also low. They will not put pre-cat cars on the dyno, so all testing is done at idle.
I do drive the car every day, so I stayed away from the QQ plates. Heard too many stories of people being out and about town and getting ticketed for misuse of plates(QQ only lets you drive to or from shows and for educational or repair purposes). Plus our cars are pretty visible, so if they get you once, they'll definitely see you agian.
One other option you can look into if you think you may have trouble is collector status. With collector, they wave most of the testing, but you are still limited to 5000 mile(If I remeber correctly) a year. Because the inspection is every other year, you at least get two years on the road this way. When you go back for inspection they'll check you odometer, if your over the limit they just revoke the collector status and you'll need to inspect the regular way.Hope some of this helps...
:cheers:
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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Hi Tom!

Beautiful ride ;)
Your answer makes me pretty much shy away from the QQ plates. I do like to
drive her whenever I feel like it. Thing is I removed the original Q-Jet and
dropped in a Holley 750. The Q-jet would need a complete rebuild, so I figured
I'd go for the new Holley. I guess I'll just have to drop the Q-jet in for inspection then :)

Thks!

Stefan
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Moving to NJ - Emissions rules (Stefan69)

The Q-jet would need a complete rebuild, so I figured
I'd go for the new Holley.
Oh yeah, one other thing. I had a mess of a Q-Jet on my car when I got it. Sent it off to Lars in CO for a $100 rebuild. Got it back in less than a week, slapped it on, and went right thru inspection with no adjustments. Best money I've spent on the car yet!
Tom
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Default Re: Moving to NJ - Emissions rules (427_Roadster)

Tom, do you actually know people that were ticketed for improper use of QQ plated vehicle?? I have never heard of it.

The collector registration is definitely worth considering. Here is what I copied from the DMV website:

The following concerns inspections -

Exemptions

Inspections are not required for certain vehicles such as historic and collector cars.

Historic vehicles at least 25 years old, used only for exhibition purposes or manufactured before 1945, require a special registration and a QQ plate displayed on the rear of the vehicle.

Collector cars display two standard license plates and have a triangular decal on the front left windshield that are valid for two years. The owners must provide proof of miles driven annually (3,000 miles or less) and special insurance (limited use collector vehicle) and renew this status every two years, or if owners change.
MJ
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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Tom, do you actually know people that were ticketed for improper use of QQ plated vehicle?? I have never heard of it.
Nope, always the 'friend of a friend' deals or just trading stories. But being on the FD here in town I get to chat with the local police and sheriffs alot. Brought it up to them when I was deciding on which way to register. In a nutshell, if they see QQs at odd times, i.e. wee hours, week days during work hours, they will check it out. A few said just to make sure the car's not stolen. A few said they wouldn't even bother. I just figured it's better not to give them any more reason to pull you over in the first place. Especially with a convertible shark - It's not going to be easy to blend in with the traffic if you've been gigged once before.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Yupp, I DEFINITELY don't want to give them more reasons to pull me over. I'd say the high-speed runs to see if the jets also work for 5500rpm in fourth are enough :D But just 3000mls/yr for the collectors sounds low. So maybe it will be a regular registration after all. Or maybe I'll just keep her registered in good ole PA. Have a second residence a t a friends place or so :jester
Thanks for the help!

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Tom, do you actually know people that were ticketed for improper use of QQ plated vehicle?? I have never heard of it.

MJ
Marc I've known people for the past 20 years who have had antique plates.
I never heard anyone ever mention getting a ticket other than for a traffic infraction.
Like Tom says mostly friend of a friend stories. :cheers:


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