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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Actually, more cars came from the factory with S.S. shorty headers than you might think. My 87' Olds Toronado 3.8 V6 had em', but at 150 hp, far from a performance wonder.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Default '72 SB with a/c and ps - Which Headers

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9003/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-2456HKR/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-11106FLT/


Would any of these work with my '72 350 a/c, ps stock car? I would like to just replace the original manifold but keep everything else stock/original. Is it possible and will any of these bolt up directly?
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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no .all those headers are aftermarket .you will have to buy something like what you have .or you can go with the factory replacements from mcjacks .you may not be happy with the cheap stuff .i would spend a little more for a better header .you will have less problems.JMO
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by makosilver72
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9003/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-2456HKR/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-11106FLT/


Would any of these work with my '72 350 a/c, ps stock car? I would like to just replace the original manifold but keep everything else stock/original. Is it possible and will any of these bolt up directly?
If you take a close look at the stock cast iron exhaust manifolds, you will see that, compared to the long tube headers in your links, the spot where they hook up to the exhaust system is quite different. In order to use any of the headers in the links you provided, you will need to, at the very least, modify your stock exhaust pipes.


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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by terry82
LOL they are factory headers .they do work .they are small .and they are not the best .but they do work.
I guess, technically, they are headers, since they are not cast. But that doesn't change the fact that they suck. It is my understanding that they were made primarily as a weight saving measure.


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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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i dont think they are suppose to suck i think they are to blow.hahah.yea weight saving and sales gimmick.the same as having two tbs when one would have worked just fine.they are not that bad but they are verry small tube .they could have gone bigger and not have cost any more to make but would have done a better job.will say mine have been trouble free.i will go with mcjacks when its time for a replacement .they bolt right inplace of the the factory parts but are better .
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by terry82
i dont think they are suppose to suck i think they are to blow.hahah.yea weight saving and sales gimmick.the same as having two tbs when one would have worked just fine.they are not that bad but they are verry small tube .they could have gone bigger and not have cost any more to make but would have done a better job.will say mine have been trouble free.i will go with mcjacks when its time for a replacement .they bolt right inplace of the the factory parts but are better .

LOL, they don't suck, they blow! Good one, Centurion!


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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by corvettdreamin
O.K, i'm on a budget so looking at the low end of the market.

These seem like really good value.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9003/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HOK-2456HKR/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-11106FLT/



Has anyone had any experience with them and would they make a difference over the stock cast iron units.

L48 stock at present but will be changing cam and heads over time.
I have a set on my 475 hp stroker.I did however buy a couple of cans of the diy ceramic coating from the parts store and baked it on before I installed them.I get great performance and they fit great.
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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bobs76stingray
I have a set on my 475 hp stroker.I did however buy a couple of cans of the diy ceramic coating from the parts store and baked it on before I installed them.I get great performance and they fit great.
Do it yourself ceramic coating? That I haven't seen before.

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Old Jul 2, 2011 | 02:35 AM
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When purchasing headers the first concern is how much horsepower are you planning on making.

IE what size of header will work the best.

So the real question becomes Does someone make a good and reasonable priced, "nome the size header here."

I'm running the Summit Raceing 1 5/8 headers with no complaints.

They are good to about 325hp and so is everything else in my motor.

And yes theyfit perfect, and there was a Hooker Header paper in the box with them.

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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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The High temp ceramic coating is a spray on coating that you bake on in a series of several coats.Not as good as the commercial stuff but does help with the longevity of cheap headers,like rust and burn thru.At least it has on the second set of summit headers I bought have lasted twice as long so far.The first set rusted thru in around 1 year.the second set have been on for 2 years now with no signs of rust,at least yet
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
Stan's and McJack's both have a reputation for making a real good quality product. I am leaning toward Stan's because it's a tri-y design.

To the OP: I highly recommend coughing up the dough for some sort of ceramic coating, be it Jet Hot, or whoever. Although, if funds are a little short, you can run the headers, and take 'em off and have 'em coated over the winter while the car's in storage, or whenever you feel like it. The coatings available aren't just cosmetic, they really make a header last a lot longer.


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I did Stan's tyi-y's on my 82 .... had em coated ... they're awesome ... no problems with install or other issues ... good solid pieces ....
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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I have two sets of Tri-Y headers and they are awsome.

One on my Motor home.

454 Edelbrock Cam, manifold and a good set of heads.
I put a few hundred miles on it and then added the headers.
Big improvement. More power and fuel economy where you need it the most.

And a set on my Toyota 4x4 pickup with a 22RE engine.
Again power where you need it.

Doug Thorley make a great product. Even their header gaskets are the best.

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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 05:59 PM
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If I may hijack the tread for a moment...
I have a 76 l48 auto and I installed a 2" chambered system that bolts up to the stock manifolds. Will a new set of headers be the same lenght as the manifolds so they just bolt on? Will it change the sound of the exhaust? It sounds great now but I wouldn't want it any louder.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by psycho dad
If I may hijack the tread for a moment...
I have a 76 l48 auto and I installed a 2" chambered system that bolts up to the stock manifolds. Will a new set of headers be the same lenght as the manifolds so they just bolt on? Will it change the sound of the exhaust? It sounds great now but I wouldn't want it any louder.
ive got a 2.5" set of of allens chambered on my car right now, and headers will not bolt straight upto it. youll need to ditch the front pipe and either get a short pipe bent up to make the connection between the headers and crossmember, or use a flex hose.

from my understanding, it shouldnt be louder, just deeper and more aggressive.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by psycho dad
Nothings ever easy
yes you can get a pair made from mcjacks that will bolt right inplace of the factory manifolds.they will be a shorty header not a long tube .
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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I can definetely attest to using McJacks Headers. Great quality product and well worth the cost. Superior craftsmanship to other headers I've tried. He's running a header special on ebay I noticed. Might be able to save a few $$ and get a great product.

Originally Posted by scottyp99
Stan's and McJack's both have a reputation for making a real good quality product. I am leaning toward Stan's because it's a tri-y design.

To the OP: I highly recommend coughing up the dough for some sort of ceramic coating, be it Jet Hot, or whoever. Although, if funds are a little short, you can run the headers, and take 'em off and have 'em coated over the winter while the car's in storage, or whenever you feel like it. The coatings available aren't just cosmetic, they really make a header last a lot longer.


Scott
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Old Jul 23, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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These are my buddies original factory headers from his 82 california car. We cut the emmission tube off the top and welded the holes. Then painted them with bar-b-que silver paint.



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