Electric fuel pump & line mounting
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Electric fuel pump & line mounting
Below are pictures of my planned mounting of the Holley Blue electric fuel pump and canister filter. The brackets are temporary for mock up; I'll fab better ones once I get the OK from you guys on the plan. I'll also be running a return.
My concerns are:
1. Mounting the pump and filter 'sideways' is this a problem? There is nothing in the directions about it.
2. Will there be enough clearance for the line coming off the pump to connect to the hard line on top of the frame. (It's been so long since the body has been on I don't remember how much room I have.)
3. Order of the filter / pump. I've seen threads where the pump was first and others where the filter was first. I'll be running a Quick Fuel 750CFM on top of a 383 with 450 HP, I don't remember if there is a filter in the carb.
4. If the filter should be between the pump and the carb, any problem mounting it in the engine compartment?
My concerns are:
1. Mounting the pump and filter 'sideways' is this a problem? There is nothing in the directions about it.
2. Will there be enough clearance for the line coming off the pump to connect to the hard line on top of the frame. (It's been so long since the body has been on I don't remember how much room I have.)
3. Order of the filter / pump. I've seen threads where the pump was first and others where the filter was first. I'll be running a Quick Fuel 750CFM on top of a 383 with 450 HP, I don't remember if there is a filter in the carb.
4. If the filter should be between the pump and the carb, any problem mounting it in the engine compartment?
Burning Brakes
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From: Fort Wayne IN
1. I mounted my filter and pump in the same location, I just drilled and tapped the frame for the brackets. No problem with the orientation.
2. I used fuel injection hose to go from the tank and to the hard-line with no problems.
3. Filter should be before the pump to ensure no particulates gum up the pump. I didn't reinstall the pickup strainer because I figured it was kind of redundant in this setup.
4. I'm not familiar with Quick Fuel carbs, buy Holleys have a fuel filter in the inlets.
2. I used fuel injection hose to go from the tank and to the hard-line with no problems.
3. Filter should be before the pump to ensure no particulates gum up the pump. I didn't reinstall the pickup strainer because I figured it was kind of redundant in this setup.
4. I'm not familiar with Quick Fuel carbs, buy Holleys have a fuel filter in the inlets.
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From: Florida
Sock (100micron) should be on the pickup in the tank to protect pump, then pump then filter (10micron used for FI is best, but 30micron for carb is OK).
Best to keep filter cooler, and best to use a good regulator and return if possible.
Best to keep filter cooler, and best to use a good regulator and return if possible.
Burning Brakes
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From: Greensboro NC
I'll take a picture of mine and put it up tomorrow if you like.
It's mounted right at the right rear on the frame, and although I do hear it now and then, it's mostly on initial start up.
And mine is mounted with the filter between the tank and the pump. I also carry an extra filter and the needed tolls to change it out if things go south (small vise grips to clamp the line, a nut driver for the clamps, and a blanket).
It's mounted right at the right rear on the frame, and although I do hear it now and then, it's mostly on initial start up.
And mine is mounted with the filter between the tank and the pump. I also carry an extra filter and the needed tolls to change it out if things go south (small vise grips to clamp the line, a nut driver for the clamps, and a blanket).
Drifting
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From: Kansas
Yes Sir; How is the stock exhaust going to fit this car?? My muffler fits right in this exact place. The stock 1982 pump is in the tank, the filter is on the frame right below the heater core position. You can use the stock 1982 pump in the tank and put any volume pump in the Original position. I put mine on the side of the frame above the muffler. I have just bought a used 1982 sending unit, I plan on installing it in a future date. Have a great day. Gene
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From: Tampa / Ft. Myers FL
doctorgene, I'll be running side pipes...
Grumpy, I already have this one and will be running a return off the regulator so hopefully that'll take some of the load off and extend the life. I'll look at Carter should I need a replacement. Thanks
Grumpy, I already have this one and will be running a return off the regulator so hopefully that'll take some of the load off and extend the life. I'll look at Carter should I need a replacement. Thanks
Le Mans Master
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From: Livonia MI
While not answering your original question, I've done a few electric pump transplant's on rarely driven carburated cars. For whatever reason, seem to settled on the Mallory 140 set up with regulator/gauge under hood close to the carb. Pretty sweet, as twist the key to aux for a few seconds to fill the carb bowls, and fires right up. Have a dash switch to cut the pump off when parking, to stall out on an empty carb bowl. Perfect for storage.
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Hello. 
If you running sidepipes i cant see any problems with the mounting possitions of pump and filter.
As mentioned earlier in the thread the filter should go in between the tank and the pump.
Another thing about the filter..
The filter design is such that it should be mounted with the bowl facing down.
Reason for this is that the bottom of the bowl will collect eventual water and heavy debris that you may get in your tank when filling at a petrolstation who has condense in their tanks.
Filter should be "standing up" as on this picture.
http://www.truechoice.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FRM+HPG-1
A word of advise is to check that all components are grounded to the frame (battery -pole) to avoid static electricity buildup caused by the flow of petrol.
To lower the noice of the fuelpump one normally uses rubbermounts witch isolates the pump from the chassie, then one need to check (with a multimeter) that the pump is properly grounded through the minus cable, if not run a separate ground wire from the pumps body.
//Ricky.
If you running sidepipes i cant see any problems with the mounting possitions of pump and filter.
As mentioned earlier in the thread the filter should go in between the tank and the pump.
Another thing about the filter..
The filter design is such that it should be mounted with the bowl facing down.
Reason for this is that the bottom of the bowl will collect eventual water and heavy debris that you may get in your tank when filling at a petrolstation who has condense in their tanks.
Filter should be "standing up" as on this picture.
http://www.truechoice.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FRM+HPG-1
A word of advise is to check that all components are grounded to the frame (battery -pole) to avoid static electricity buildup caused by the flow of petrol.
To lower the noice of the fuelpump one normally uses rubbermounts witch isolates the pump from the chassie, then one need to check (with a multimeter) that the pump is properly grounded through the minus cable, if not run a separate ground wire from the pumps body.
//Ricky.
Last edited by RickyBerg; Jun 20, 2011 at 03:44 AM.
Drifting
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From: Kansas
Yes Sir; I heard on another forum, that Carter made fuel pumps for Holley, & Bosh bought Carter out. I've never had any luck with Bosh, I had three of them on my car, they did replace them, but I got tired of the hassle of changing them,. The auto parts stores mostly stock the fuel pumps from China, Can't win from losing. Have a great day. Gene
Burning Brakes
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From: Greensboro NC
Okay,
So I'm old and forgetful.... Took the picture a few minutes ago at 10:05 pm....
Kind of low res since I took the pictures with my cell phone.
I actually have two filters on the car. One at the tank and for some silly reason another between the pressure regulator and the carb.
The rear filter can be changed in a matter of minutes. Small needle nose vise grips clamp the soft line from tank to filter, undo the clamps on the filter and it's out. Just need a flat place to lie down...
The only bad part is that when it decides to be clogged up, it is most definitely at the wrong time...
So I'm old and forgetful.... Took the picture a few minutes ago at 10:05 pm....
Kind of low res since I took the pictures with my cell phone.
I actually have two filters on the car. One at the tank and for some silly reason another between the pressure regulator and the carb.
The rear filter can be changed in a matter of minutes. Small needle nose vise grips clamp the soft line from tank to filter, undo the clamps on the filter and it's out. Just need a flat place to lie down...
The only bad part is that when it decides to be clogged up, it is most definitely at the wrong time...
