Good article! " Dyno Shootout: Solid Roller Vs. Hydraulic Roller "
First...ZL-1's had solid rollers???
36* of cam timing??
That solid roller was still climbing for sure. Shut down test too early.
Also seems like a bad apples to oranges comparison. A solid roller and a hyd roller with the same .050" duration numbers will not have the same valve events due to lash. The hyd roller was actually *bigger* than the solid roller.
I didn't see the lobe numbers?
Hyd cam gained 45.2 HP from 5000-6400 rpm
Solid cam gained 63.7 and was still climbing.
Who do you think will be pulling hard on who??
Don't get me wrong...a HYD cam can be an excellent performer especially in a smallblock. You can get over 7000 rpm easily with good parts. Much more with *race* type hyd stuff..but at that point it's basically a hyd in name only.
For 6500 RPM stuff they make a lot of sense for a street toy.
JIM





Even for them if they use the AFR eliminators with lightweight ls series valves, titanium caps and beehive springs and the new short travel lifters this will extend the operating range of the hydraulic roller to well over 7000 rpm without costing a fortune and virtually no maintainance. The technology today with hydraulic roller valvetrains is way ahead of what it was even 5 years ago. For the vast majority of street cars the hydraulic roller is the best option.





Valvetrain weight is the killer for sure. Folks work like crazy to get a HR to rev to the moon and they pretty much stop the one thing it does best...be quiet. The short travel lifters are pretty noisy and were invented for class racers who had to run hyd. cams. Before that they machined washer to shim them up and essentially make solids out of them.
Then we try more serious cams to make more power...which need more valve spring. besides being noisy with the fast ramps...they have begun to start eating parts just like solid rollers due to high spring pressures etc.
There IS some really good spintron work going on that is very interesting. It's all in the cam lobe design and it's super critical with a hyd cam to make it rev. You can't slam them around like a solid roller...but you can get close if you really work at it. But as mentioned...many of them are using titanium valves and stuff. But I do know of a few 7000 rpm small blocks with *normal* hyd rollers. Just takes good parts.
You can easily make 550-600Hp with a hyd roller under 7000 rpm in a Gen I..but it won't likely be as dead quiet as people might like.
The LS motors have a huge cam lobe and shaft, shorter pushrods, lighter valves etc etc to help them out.
JIM







