AFCO aluminum filter assembly
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Burning Brakes
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From: Jersey Shore
AFCO aluminum filter assembly
Has anyone used this style air filter on their car? I cant tell if the hump on the lid would hit the hood or not. It has a 2" drop and I have a BB/LT1 hood with a small block.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-80550/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-80550/
Pro
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From: Coquitlam British Columbia
Can't really answer your question, but I am looking at the base only for a BB L88 air chamber project and just wanted to let you know that the base is available with out the top from Speedway. If you think the top will not work, perhaps you could go with a different flatter style top but still get the 2" drop of the AFCO base? What carb are you using ?
Base only #10680550X3 = $36
ikwhite
Base only #10680550X3 = $36
ikwhite
Has anyone used this style air filter on their car? I cant tell if the hump on the lid would hit the hood or not. It has a 2" drop and I have a BB/LT1 hood with a small block.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-80550/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-80550/
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Burning Brakes
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From: Jersey Shore
Thanks for the tip on the speedway base... I really would like to use the top because of its design. It helps to funnel the air into the carb better than the typical flat top design.
Also, if you consider that the base is dropped 2" and you use a 3" tall filter, you really only have 1" or even less of airspace above the carb flange. With the AFCO lid, it is bubbled to increase the airspace between the carb flange and the lid. There are a few articles online that show some power increases with this lid compared to the flat style. (Im supposed to believe everything on the internet, right?
)
The carb is a Holley 650 DP.
Also, if you consider that the base is dropped 2" and you use a 3" tall filter, you really only have 1" or even less of airspace above the carb flange. With the AFCO lid, it is bubbled to increase the airspace between the carb flange and the lid. There are a few articles online that show some power increases with this lid compared to the flat style. (Im supposed to believe everything on the internet, right?
)The carb is a Holley 650 DP.
Pro
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From: Coquitlam British Columbia
No that makes perfect sense and I agree if you can make it work with that top you would be better off. Just to add I see Summit also sells the top and bottom separately as well, just in case anyone else comes across this thread.
ikwhite
ikwhite
Thanks for the tip on the speedway base... I really would like to use the top because of its design. It helps to funnel the air into the carb better than the typical flat top design.
Also, if you consider that the base is dropped 2" and you use a 3" tall filter, you really only have 1" or even less of airspace above the carb flange. With the AFCO lid, it is bubbled to increase the airspace between the carb flange and the lid. There are a few articles online that show some power increases with this lid compared to the flat style. (Im supposed to believe everything on the internet, right?)
The carb is a Holley 650 DP.
Also, if you consider that the base is dropped 2" and you use a 3" tall filter, you really only have 1" or even less of airspace above the carb flange. With the AFCO lid, it is bubbled to increase the airspace between the carb flange and the lid. There are a few articles online that show some power increases with this lid compared to the flat style. (Im supposed to believe everything on the internet, right?
)The carb is a Holley 650 DP.
Drifting
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From: Cedar,BC
I have used and still have a couple of those lids,and yes they will pick up a pony or three over some of the other air cleaners out there,but in the big picture/real world won't make a huge difference.It will likely fit,if you like I can measure the depth from the top of the lid to the wing nut base,off the top of my head its not much more than an inch.
Le Mans Master
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From: League City Tx
Remember you are supposed to run a 4" filter with those dome top/2" drop air cleaners. A 3" filter will put the the bubble 1" over the carb throat....Even if using an HP main body carb with no choke horn, the lid will pose a restriction at some point..... That is basically what happened to me running my 2" drop L88 base but with a LT1 lid and a 3" filter...... It cost me 13 rwhp on the chasis dyno... BUT this was on a 650hp engine....
All you can do is try it, dyno it and see it what it does...or better yet run it down the strip with and without it and see what it does...
All you can do is try it, dyno it and see it what it does...or better yet run it down the strip with and without it and see what it does...
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Burning Brakes
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From: Jersey Shore
Remember you are supposed to run a 4" filter with those dome top/2" drop air cleaners. A 3" filter will put the the bubble 1" over the carb throat....Even if using an HP main body carb with no choke horn, the lid will pose a restriction at some point..... That is basically what happened to me running my 2" drop L88 base but with a LT1 lid and a 3" filter...... It cost me 13 rwhp on the chasis dyno... BUT this was on a 650hp engine....
All you can do is try it, dyno it and see it what it does...or better yet run it down the strip with and without it and see what it does...
All you can do is try it, dyno it and see it what it does...or better yet run it down the strip with and without it and see what it does...
Safety Car
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From: Youngstown Ohio
Has anyone used this style air filter on their car? I cant tell if the hump on the lid would hit the hood or not. It has a 2" drop and I have a BB/LT1 hood with a small block.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-80550/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-80550/
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Yes, I have this exact air cleaner. What they say about it is true. The air is funneled to the carb through the bubble top. Engine Masters Challenge competitors use this air cleaner and convinced me when I witnessed a 5 hp across the range gain on all engines we dynoed (mine included), vs. the K & N Xstream open top.
If the side element is large enough to support the needed air flow, the K&N open top can be a detriment as it doesn't provide that nice radius for the air to follow that the stock lid provides.
Safety Car
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From: Youngstown Ohio
Did you/they run it against the stock (real) air cleaner lid or just the K&N open top?
If the side element is large enough to support the needed air flow, the K&N open top can be a detriment as it doesn't provide that nice radius for the air to follow that the stock lid provides.
If the side element is large enough to support the needed air flow, the K&N open top can be a detriment as it doesn't provide that nice radius for the air to follow that the stock lid provides.
I thought the K&N had the advantage until I saw the dyno results. The drop base bubble top's "ram" effect draws in more air than the relatively still turbulent air atop the K&N.
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