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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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I'm having an problem with my plug boots melting do to the hooker side headers. I'm looking for a short spark plug for a 427, anyone know of any. The stock plug is a AC Delco R44xls.
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You can get them from Accel and others, but truthfully if you go the parts store or look on line you can usuallu cross reference a regular plug to one fo the shorter ones. They are common in some Japanese cars..that's where they really come from. Just look up your threads and length, seat style, heat range etc and you'll be able to get a set locally.

BBC usually aren't too bad on wires and headers. Maybe a set of heat boots/sleeves would help?

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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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Champion RC12YC Very common plug at most parts stores

I have done tons of spark plug research over the years and have found alot of shorty plugs that are just plain common plugs. never buy a high dollar plug just because it is a shorty or so called "header plug"
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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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Champion RC12YC Very common plug at most parts stores

I have done tons of spark plug research over the years and have found alot of shorty plugs that are just plain common plugs. never buy a high dollar plug just because it is a shorty or so called "header plug"
I agree, I bought a shorty plug and it was the same length as the NGK plugs I use
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Thanks, I'll give the Champion a try, and yes I have wrapped the headers with high temp stuff, put space age sleeves on the boots, still melting the boot, not as bad, but not good.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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I solved the problem on the bb with Hookers by using Accel ceramic boot spark plug wires. Work great and no more melted boots.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ROBERTB1955
I'm having an problem with my plug boots melting do to the hooker side headers. I'm looking for a short spark plug for a 427, anyone know of any. The stock plug is a AC Delco R44xls.
I have a set of ceramic plug boots that I never used. If you would be interested in buying these, I will figure-out a price for them; send me a PM.

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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Ok, give me a price, and I'll look these up, do you have a p/n? Thanks
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you will probably still melt them.... i had a similar problem, the only fix was ceramic coated headers. good luck.
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(Note: For SBC alu heads)

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NGK BCPR6EY-11 (equals 3923 and RC9YC4)
Autolite 5224 (equals RC11ZYCA and ZFR5E-11)
Champion RC12YC 71 (equals 3926 and BKR4E)
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If you look at the pic, the NGK is longer than the Autolite and the Champion.



The NGK has a very close fit under the PATRIOT Tight Tuck Ceramic Coated from Corvette Central. Both the Autolite and the Champion fit perfect.









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I may have not said that I have the hooker side pipe, which may be worse then standard headers. The #1 & #3 are very close.
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All of the plugs shown seem to have the compression washers. If you were running the later style cast iron heads and using the plugs with the 5/8 hex, tapered seat plug, what will the crossover plug be to go shortie? Thanks
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take your pic. long or short thread. all shortys on top
from left to right
champion v59yc,ngk br6fs,autolite 103,ngk tr55

the br6fs is a not projected tip
heat ranges are close but final tuning is up to you.

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That was quick. Thanks.
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if your doing short thread that v59yc is my fav.
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I need the 3/4 thread, but it seems that all these plugs are the same length, after there installed. I need a short insulator end.
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im not sure how you can say that after looking at the first picture I posted . post # 11

seems like this might be a lost cause now.
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Originally Posted by project C4
im not sure how you can say that after looking at the first picture I posted . post # 11

seems like this might be a lost cause now.
Even the Shorty plugs listed by Summit, made by Accel, describe them as being only 1/4 to 3/8 in. shorter than standard plugs. Thanks again C4 for the info.
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I may have fix my own problem. I cut the melted boot off, wrapped some non-metal insulation around the bare plug terminal, then I had some shrink tube I got with plug wires and put two shrink tubes. I haven't driven yet, but I started the car up and have no arcing and the engine ran smooth. The shrink tube has to be heated with a butane lighter or torch so I'm hoping this will work, looks like hell but that's the breaks.
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I ordered a set of Accel ceramics, but I'm still looking for a short spark plug, not the threads, I need it shorter from the seat to the electrode. I have to find a Champion RC12YC and take a look. Again this is for a 427, AC Delco R44XLS are what in it now. Thanks
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