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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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I've been hearing some clunking noise when going over rough roads. I got the rear end jacked up today and I was kind of shock at how much the rear tires (and trailing arms) move. The top of the tire moves in and out about 1/8". It also makes this clunking noise which I believe is coming from the yokes as they move in and out of the case slightly. Both sides move about the same amount.

Is this normal play or are the trailing arm bushings bad?

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I'm grabbing the tire at the top and bottom and lifting as well as pushing the top in.

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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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It's hard to tell from the video, but it looks like the wheel bearings are loose. Do you get the play and noise when you grab the tire at 3 and 6 oclock? Are the diff yokes sliding in and out?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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It's neither normal nor is it the trailing arm bushings. Sounds and looks like end play on the diff yokes. Somebody left the shipping straps on your leaf spring by the way.
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It's neither normal nor is it the trailing arm bushings. Sounds and looks like end play on the diff yokes. Somebody left the shipping straps on your leaf spring by the way.
So the yokes shouldn't move in or out at all? Is there a fix? More shims maybe?
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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It's hard to tell from the video, but it looks like the wheel bearings are loose. Do you get the play and noise when you grab the tire at 3 and 6 oclock? Are the diff yokes sliding in and out?
No, they're solid moving them that way. I can see the trailing arm moving in unison with the wheel, so it seems the bearings don't have excess play. It's like the whole assembly is pivoting at the lower strut rod connection point.
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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'Repairing' pretty well comes down to a complete diff overhaul. Mostly likely the yokes have been worn that way for years and years, maybe 10K+ miles. I'd keep on looking for other sources for the 'clunk', the yokes don't unload on a straight road unless you've got the car in the air.

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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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There is end play in the yokes between the end of the yoke and the center pin. When you pick he wheel up as he is doing in the video and going down with it you will hear a clunk noise. If you watch the video closely you'll notice the clunck is on the down stroke. It is the yoke bottoming out on the snap ring at full travel.

Are you hearing any noise while driving?

If you suspect the bearings are the problem and before you dig all the way in, remove the 1/2 shaft and put a dial indicator on the bearings to check the end play.

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Are you hearing any noise while driving?

If you suspect the bearings are the problem and before you dig all the way in, remove the 1/2 shaft and put a dial indicator on the bearings to check the end play.
I do on rough roads. It's deep rattling/clunk noise that coincides with the wheel movement and the number and frequency of any bumps. I'll do a thorough check of everything before tearing the rear end out. It only has 78K miles, so I wouldn't suspect the rear end being worn out.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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Have you swapped out the fluid in your rear? Could possibly be the posi fluid is toast and the clunking noise is coming from the rear end when one wheel is traveling at a slightly different speed than the other. You can vacuum out all of the fluid and do an exchange with 2 parts of posi lubricant to see if that takes care of the problem.
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Originally Posted by C6DuffMan
I do on rough roads. It's deep rattling/clunk noise that coincides with the wheel movement and the number and frequency of any bumps.
A bad/loose shock will do exactly that.
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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I vote bad bearings. looks to be on the left side when you move the wheel up and down the half shaft stays put. not good. check your shims at the front of the trailing arm also .are they still there.
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where the heck is the video? I can't see it anywhere !


Has it been removed?
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I'm not so sure it's bearings either. When you move the wheel up and down on a car with bad bearings the support won't move up and down and it appears as if both are moving. If they were that bad it would be obvious. Best way to check would be to remove the 1/2 shaft and then check the end play.

When bearings are out you'd have the same free play movement in all directions. So he could go check this pretty quickly by twisting the wheel in the same manner from the sides.
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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
I'm not so sure it's bearings either. When you move the wheel up and down on a car with bad bearings the support won't move up and down and it appears as if both are moving. If they were that bad it would be obvious. Best way to check would be to remove the 1/2 shaft and then check the end play.

When bearings are out you'd have the same free play movement in all directions. So he could go check this pretty quickly by twisting the wheel in the same manner from the sides.
I would pull the half shaft and check for play at the yoke and wheel bearings. Seem strange that you get the same noise from both wheels.
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Wheel bearing will also give you a slight vibration at speed. Your rear view mirror will detect this as the cars behind will look like they are vibrating, at least that's what was the outcome for me
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Well! I found the source of the clunking. The left rear brake caliper bolts were loose. Glad I found that! Seems like the rear end might need some attention soon, but it drives and sounds solid now.
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Originally Posted by C6DuffMan
Well! I found the source of the clunking. The left rear brake caliper bolts were loose. Glad I found that! Seems like the rear end might need some attention soon, but it drives and sounds solid now.
Good Deal...

Just remember... the best way to check for a bearing problem and really the only true way is to use a dial caliper and check the run out of the bearings.
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Glad you found the noise, but there is more than that loose on the left rear, It's gonna fail on you and not at a good time.
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Congrats on finding it so soon, I have spent plenty of time tracking down vibrations in the 10 or so years I've had mine
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Good Deal...

Just remember... the best way to check for a bearing problem and really the only true way is to use a dial caliper and check the run out of the bearings.
Thanks! I'll do that soon.
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