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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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I was considering this for my 80 , anyone familiar this package .

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CMB-03-0191/
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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I dont have their manifold, but I have their 750 carb and it's awesome for the price. Runs better than the Edelbrock Q-Jet and Holley 750 I had.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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I dont have their manifold, but I have their 750 carb and it's awesome for the price. Runs better than the Edelbrock Q-Jet and Holley 750 I had.
Is the carb their own brand ,or is it made by someone else
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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It says summit on it, so as far as I know it's theirs. They purchased the design of the Holley 4010 and are now making it themselves w/a few changes I believe.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by neuroclast
It says summit on it, so as far as I know it's theirs. They purchased the design of the Holley 4010 and are now making it themselves w/a few changes I believe.
That should be correct.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by neuroclast
It says summit on it, so as far as I know it's theirs. They purchased the design of the Holley 4010 and are now making it themselves w/a few changes I believe.



have they fixed the problems of the original 4010/4011 carbs? i cant specifically remember WHAT it was but i put a 4011 onto a 79Z28 and despite tuning i could never get it to run right. i'm going to hold off on doing injection until i get the car safe to drive and running before i start modifying. i liked the fact that there are no gaskets below the level of the fuel in the float bowls to leak.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 06:53 PM
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I really hope some people who have actually used these Summit Racing carbs chime in, I am very intrigued by them. Annular discharge boosters, being able to use holley parts, and the price seems too good to be true. I'd like to see a single fuel inlet with side hung floats version, though. Makes for a nice, simple, compact package.


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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bucky katt
have they fixed the problems of the original 4010/4011 carbs? i cant specifically remember WHAT it was but i put a 4011 onto a 79Z28 and despite tuning i could never get it to run right.
And it was the carbs fault?
I never heard of a recall on it for a carb wide problem???
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And it was the carbs fault?
I never heard of a recall on it for a carb wide problem???


i wasnt the only one, this was a pretty well known problem back in the early 90's
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I never used the original holley ones, so I can't comment on those. I can say it took almost no time to get my summit one up and running. I also (as part of my normal carb install) disassembled it to check everything. There was no extra flash from the casting, no shavings anywhere, and the base plate and all gasket surfaces were as straight as my straight edge could measure. It's been a great, reliable carb on my modified 383. That's pretty much all I can say on the subject. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. And yeah, no gaskets below the fuel level is great. A lot less cleanup while tuning.



Before I had the dist fully installed and wires routed. Summit 750 on top!

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Originally Posted by neuroclast
I never used the original holley ones, so I can't comment on those. I can say it took almost no time to get my summit one up and running. I also (as part of my normal carb install) disassembled it to check everything. There was no extra flash from the casting, no shavings anywhere, and the base plate and all gasket surfaces were as straight as my straight edge could measure. It's been a great, reliable carb on my modified 383. That's pretty much all I can say on the subject. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. And yeah, no gaskets below the fuel level is great. A lot less cleanup while tuning.



Before I had the dist fully installed and wires routed. Summit 750 on top!

What kind of fuel mileage do ya get?


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Originally Posted by scottyp99
I really hope some people who have actually used these Summit Racing carbs chime in, I am very intrigued by them. Annular discharge boosters, being able to use holley parts, and the price seems too good to be true. I'd like to see a single fuel inlet with side hung floats version, though. Makes for a nice, simple, compact package.


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I have a Summit 600 CFM carb on my 68 (331 inches). Best value on a carb that I ever bought.

Being the worlds greatest cheapskate, I bought a factory refurbished one. It looked and behaved like it was brand new. For $199.00.

Car runs GREAT. I get 21 MPG (with Tremec TKO 5 speed, 3.08 rear).
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This is all good to know I have been looking at one of these as well.

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It would be nice if the manifold wasn't a spread bore requiring the adapter gasket.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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I bought one last week and bolted it up last night It runs great right out of the box. Great value for the money
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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That style is my all time favorite short of multiple webers or dellortos.

Holley copied the old Autolite 4100 design of the mid 60s, and now Summit has copied the old Holley.
The one I have is a spreadbore 750cfm mechanical secondaries, so it has all the advantages of the spreadbore design, plus annular boosters.
The design eliminates any bowl leakage, is aluminum instead of pot, and the nice thing about the mechanical secondaries is that I could feel when they were to open thru the gas pedal and could stay out of the secondaries if desired.
It did take about 15 openings and some drilling etc to get the a/f right, but once set, it got the qjet mileage with slightly better performance. It would even pass the emissions testing we had at the time, with better numbers than a q jet.

Never tried the Summit ones, shame they don't have a spreadbore model.
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These are the old Holley 4010/4011 carburetors that were discontinued in the 90's and were Holley's attempt at a 'modular' carburetor. I don't know if Holley is making them for Summit or if someone else acquired the tooling.

Personally, I would go with a street avenger carb. before one of these. Or better yet, get your QJ rebuilt and tuned for your engine.
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