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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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Car starts fine (even in cold weather). I let it idle for a minute before I go for a drive.
Everything is fine to this point. I can even drive it 30 minutes without any problems, but when I step on it and do few WOT runs the car stalls on me when I am at the red light.

I have a/f meter and it basically tells me that after few WOT the car gets PIG rich at idle and dies. Its still good ad cruising and WOT, just wont idle without my foot on the pedal.

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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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what make carburetor? did you check the float level? do you have a disconnected fuel return line?
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Holley street avenger 670.
Yes. the float level is correct.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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there have been a number of posts concerning that carb. From Holley it is set up too lean. Did anybody modify your carb or is it stock out of the box.
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Yes the carb was tuned by me based on Lars articles and a/f meter. Bigger jets, different side squirter..basic stuff.
It was great during summer time (no problems at all). Now this problem occurred.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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I believe your a/f meter has identified the problem. The power enrichment system is hanging up when hot. Sorry but I have never worked on a holley. Suggest you post with holley in the title to get input from guys who run them, or call them for advice.
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I just saw your last post. Now that we know it ran fine in summer, I suspect you have a fuel percolation issue (fuel too volatile for current conditions). Try new gas.
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I just saw your last post. Now that we know it ran fine in summer, I suspect you have a fuel percolation issue (fuel too volatile for current conditions). Try new gas.
Wouldn't vapor lock cause the car to die due to a lean condition(IE no gas)? I'm confused by this...

Sounds like you're developing too much fuel pressure in the line at higher RPMs causing fuel to force its way into the bowl after the needle seats. Then you bring the RPMs back down and the bowl is overfull causing the at-idle loading up you describe.

If fuel pressure is not the issue, the needle and seat may have a weak seal allowing normal fuel pressure at higher RPM to overfill the bowl.
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Vapour lock and percolation are 2 different things (although most people don't recognize this). You are correct that vapour lock results in a lean condition because the fuel pump cannot suck / transfer vapour.
Percolation is from too much heat and/or too volatile a fuel causing a rich condition (fuel vapour being forced out of the carb). Installing a heat shield between the intake and carb can often solve the former. In the old days when we were all running carbs, if you had a heat wave in normally cold temperatures, all kinds of cars could experience percolation since the refineries were mixing fuel with the RVP for colder temperatures.
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sounds as if the primary power valve is hung open. or is damaged.
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What year car is this? Did it have a fuel return line from the filter or pump that you have disconnected?
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its 1981 vette converted to regular carb. Mechanical fuel pump with return line (just like stock).
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If that was the case would the car be rich through whole the rpm band, not just at idle?
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sounds as if the primary power valve is hung open. or is damaged.
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Do you know which mechanical pump or more specifically what fuel pressure it puts out?
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its stock type made by ac delco. Puts 6-7psi (I checked the pressure yesterday)./
Anyway..I took the carb out, will put it apart and check is everything is correct.
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