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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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I want to adjust the "Adjustable Part Throttle" APT screw in this quadrajet carb I have. I got it out using needle nose, but now I want to be able to set the primary needles to the correct height....and needle nose are just not going to do it.

I APT screw head is a rectangle, 1/16" x 1/8"...I have tried to find some tubing to form into a rectangle, but so far no go on that.

Is there a "tool" available? I have yet to find one.

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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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if you can take it out you can use a mini hacksaw to cut a slot then you can use a small screwdriver
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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I did a basic search on Google and found several sites. This one seems to have a lot of stuff so they may be good to start with for info and availability.

http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Rochester_tools.htm
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I used a 1/4" bolt and cut a slot in it with my die grinder.
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Originally Posted by 78anniversary
I used a 1/4" bolt and cut a slot in it with my die grinder.
I did the exact same thing, and it works pisser!


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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 78anniversary
I used a 1/4" bolt and cut a slot in it with my die grinder.
Are you saying you used a 1/4" x 20 bolt? If so do not see how that would work as the one I took out is at best about a #6 screw.

I guess I could try a #6 screw with a nut in the same location as this shoulder piece that is on the original APT screw and grind the screw head down in diameter so it will fit into the "tube" in the carb. I'll have to give that a try as I am getting nowhere with finding a 1/16" x 1/8" rectangle bit / driver.

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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LannyL81
Are you saying you used a 1/4" x 20 bolt? If so do not see how that would work as the one I took out is at best about a #6 screw.

I guess I could try a #6 screw with a nut in the same location as this shoulder piece that is on the original APT screw and grind the screw head down in diameter so it will fit into the "tube" in the carb. I'll have to give that a try as I am getting nowhere with finding a 1/16" x 1/8" rectangle bit / driver.

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LOL!!! I am sorry to laugh, but the misunderstanding here is kinda funny. We are not telling you to replace the adjustment screw, we are telling you how to make a tool which you can use to turn the little adjustment screw. 1/4" bolt, grind a slot, use it to turn adjustment screw. Get it?


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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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Here is a pic of the adjustment tool. The slot in the head matches the slot in the bottom, so you know how much you are turning it. Either 5/16 or 3/8" bolt. Don't remember, would have to measure it.

The alum plug is knocked out and a stainless socket hex plug is threaded in to replace the plug.



Here is the ss plug, it has to be flush or lower for the air cleaner.

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:rof l:

NOW....that makes sense.....yes it is a good laugh....


I totally, completely misunderstood the 1/4 bolt......wow...must have had my brain turned off or something.

Thank you....and a big....DUH from me.....

Excuse me now....I have to go do some brain surgery.....

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OK, now that you have the tool, what procedure are you going to use to adjust it to the proper setting. The only thing I found required the carb to be taken apart. I just played with mine until it ran OK but I would like to know if there is a spec that I can set it to.
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It's kinda like the idle screws, there is no spec, you just play with it till you get it where you want it. I suggest that you bottom it out from where it is now, counting how many turns it takes then bring it back up and begin tuning. That way you will have a baseline adjustment, if it gets all screwed up, you can start from scratch at the baseline adjustment.


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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
It's kinda like the idle screws, there is no spec, you just play with it till you get it where you want it. I suggest that you bottom it out from where it is now, counting how many turns it takes then bring it back up and begin tuning. That way you will have a baseline adjustment, if it gets all screwed up, you can start from scratch at the baseline adjustment.


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Thanks Scott. That's what I did and it runs good, so I put the plug back in a while ago. I just wondered if there was another way.
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Thanks Scott. That's what I did and it runs good, so I put the plug back in a while ago. I just wondered if there was another way.
First off, before you turn the screw down, spray some WD40 in there to loosen the screw (I have had some stick). Then turn it all the way down and record the # of turns. Back out the same amount and you have a baseline. I then turned it down by a quarter-turn and drove the car at steady cruise on a flat highway. If you go slighty lean you will feel the car surge. If so, go back. My objective was to get it as lean as possible on cruise while maintaing good driveability. Record every change and keep track of the gas you are using - gas with more ethanol will run a bit leaner than gas with less so stick to the brand you tune with.
If light tip-in is soft, back it out 1/4 turn. It is a very sensitive setting and optimum may vary for cold vs hot weather.
This was before the widebands were available.

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I know that putting the APT screw all the way down is full lean, so I had planned on going one full turn to start with and then go from there.
I do not have a wide band O2 sensor to use so will be tuning by trial and error. Same goes with the idle mixture screws.
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Running Proceedure

Turn APT clockwise (leaner) 1/4 to 1/2 turn at a time until surging at steady throttle is felt at steady highway cruising speeds.

Then turn up until surging stops.

Idle screws usually anywhere from 3 to 6 turn out.
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