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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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I have fought with heat issues in the summer here in Upatste New York. We get 90 plus heat with 100% humidity mid summer. I fought with seals, shrouds, wetter water, by passing, timing, the hole deal. Everything the forum said... Still, a 30 minute blast at 70 down 390 put the old girl on the critical list>>> Up until I took all that plastic stuff off and put a modern fan on it.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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I have fought with heat issues in the summer here in Upatste New York. We get 90 plus heat with 100% humidity mid summer. I fought with seals, shrouds, wetter water, by passing, timing, the hole deal. Everything the forum said... Still, a 30 minute blast at 70 down 390 put the old girl on the critical list>>> Up until I took all that plastic stuff off and put a modern fan on it.
That's odd. I have a zz502 and still using the stock copper small block radiator, clutch and 7 blade fan. With a 180 thermostat it has never gone above 190 in 100 degree weather.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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I guess that I am one of the few Nay Sayers to stock clutch fans.

Lower rpm motors they might be fine. Higher rpm powerful motors need cooling at higher rpm not a fan free wheeling. I used the light weight 10,000 rpm rated stainless steel flex fans for many years. I sanded the edges so you would not get cut.

Stock heavy clutch fans are not made for over 6000 rpm motors

When you need lots of cfm of air pulling through the shroud the 10,000 rpm fans are the best mechanicals made.

I'm also pro aluminum high flow water pumps and the tall filler and cap on the intake with the cooling lines from the back of the manifolds

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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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Gkull whats the advantage of the filler cap on the intake
For burping? Or?
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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Seems like at higher RPM you would be going fast enough you wouldn't need a fan at all. I doubt an electric fan would even kick on.
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Gkull whats the advantage of the filler cap on the intake
For burping? Or?
Very simple. Your Vette radiator is lower than your upper water jackets in your heads and intake....... Right? Even your upper radiator hose is dry with the lower radiator cap.
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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Nothing on my Silver Anni has ever spun that fast!

I always fill the rad and then back fill the upper rad hose. They can also be shortened about 3 inches, that smothes out the bends and lets water move a little better.

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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePabst
Nothing on my Silver Anni has ever spun that fast!

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You also have to figure in the pulley ratio. like a 6 inch crank pulley and a 4 inch water pump would be 33% overdriven fan

So at 6000 rpm your fan blades are doing 9000 rpm. right about where the stock fan clutch is ready to launch the blades through the hood. the 10,000 rpm models are actualy tested to 14,000 rpm ofr some number like that
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
These use a ton less power than the old steel flex fans do are quieter and dont come apart. Only weigh a few oz and you wont have extra weight hanging off the WP.
Like others have had..had a steel blade come off at idle while I was under the hood, another came apart sitting in the car revving it. That could kill ya

Probably stick one of these back on this summer and keep the electric as a fail safe "just in case". Have 2 they are super old..cause they dont break lol.


http://www.summitracing.com/search/?...on%20fan&dds=1

know a lot of imports used a clutch fan with those white nylon type fans too bad GM doesnt have something like that. Seems like a perfect compromise.
Thanks for the link! I did a google search and found lots of very happy people with those. I ordered up a 17" nylon 417.. should be here tomorrow. I will report back with results! If I have problems, I will be fitting a clutch setup in there. Thanks all!
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gkull
You also have to figure in the pulley ratio. like a 6 inch crank pulley and a 4 inch water pump would be 33% overdriven fan

So at 6000 rpm your fan blades are doing 9000 rpm. right about where the stock fan clutch is ready to launch the blades through the hood. the 10,000 rpm models are actualy tested to 14,000 rpm ofr some number like that
That's not really a valid point. Most fan clutches essentialy disengage over 3,500 RPM.
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
That's not really a valid point. Most fan clutches essentialy disengage over 3,500 RPM.
I wondered when somebody would mention that..........
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