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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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what kind of top end are you guys getting with 3:73 gears.--225/60/15 tires (i think 225, i forgot) 350 trans. what is the response like when doing 70-75mph, and you "punch it"? :seeya
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

Erika, did you get that spreadsheet I e-mailed you? If you put the info in with your redline, you should get a pretty good idea of your top end. You have a 1:1 final gear ratio on your tranny (3 speed). In terms of "seat of the pants" feel punching it at 70, I wouln't know.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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yeah, i forgot about that!!-thanks, i'll try that when i get home! :seeya
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

When I punch it at 70 it gets to 100 VERY QUICKLY......I never take it over 110 But I imagine it would go about 130 or so.....Do you like to drive above 100 a lot??
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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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not planning on driving over a 100mph alot, but there are times when you just gotta look :cool:
hey, sorry to hear about your mishap! :nonod:
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By my calcs, if you have a L48 with a 5,350 redline (I think that's what it is) and 27" tires you should redline at approximately 115 MPH. With an L82 and no A/C you would redline (6,000 RPM's) at 130 MPH.
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hi 79mako--running a 383/410hp :seeya
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not planning on driving over a 100mph alot, but there are times when you just gotta look :cool:
hey, sorry to hear about your mishap! :nonod:
Thanx.......Hey that is what body shops are made for!!
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

My car runs about 130 at about 6000 rpm, 3.70:1 gears TH400. Not exactly sure of the numbers because I'm not looking at the speedo and tach much at that speed!
But I do know that 130-140 was about all I could get myself to do and that the 5800 rpm shift light had been on for a while...

And for you PC Nancy's that was done on the 5000 foot straight of the Brainard racetrack :rolleyes:

Oh, and the kick at 70 is beautifull, but then again I DO have 460hp...


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Old May 22, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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I wouldnt know because my sppedometer hasnt never worked until tonight.
I'll let you know.
Its still got a lot of ummph at 70 though.
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hi 79mako--running a 383/410hp :seeya
In that case, if you're running hydraulic lifters, above 6,000 rpm's valve float can set in. That'll get you to about 130 MPH. You MAY be able to get it to 6,500 rpm's (depending on your valve springs, etc.) which will get you to about 140 MPH. If you're running solid lifters, significantly higher. Another option, I see that AFR has a product called a Hydra-rev for hydraulic rollers that will improve performance at higher revs by decreasing float. I'm not sure whether that works for you but it's an option. Also, do you have A/C? That limits your redline down to around 5,750 (I think. I'm not sure but I know it's under 6,000) which will put you at about 125 MPH top end.

OK, this is getting way out of hand. :crazy: :smash:
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

You must have 3:08 gears! :yesnod: One of the beautiful things about 3:55 or 3:73 gears is the amazing acceleration from 70 mph. The other day I punched it going 70 or so. I felt the secondaries crack open...and whooosh! Ooooh baby, I'd better not do that too often :blueangel:
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

Hi Erika,

With 245/60/15 tires, 3:70, I show 140 MPH @ about 6300-6500 RPM.

Like Keith said, you don't spend a lot of time looking at the tach/speedo.

Another point, even if you can rev to 6000+ rpm, you also need a fair bit of horsepower to push the car at 120+ speeds. You could top out in horespower before you reach the max rpm of the engine.
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Old May 22, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

My 78 (L-82, 4-speed, 3.70:1 gears) was listed as having a 135 top speed in 78 by R&T - an automatic due to slip would probably be just a hair slower. This is at 6000 rpm.
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Another point, even if you can rev to 6000+ rpm, you also need a fair bit of horsepower to push the car at 120+ speeds. You could top out in horespower before you reach the max rpm of the engine.
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I think her 410 HP should have no problem pushing it. I think her top end limiting factors would be A/C and valve float. In that order.
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i pulled the A/C out--i don't know what valve float is. you could go to allchevyengines.com and look at the motor i ordered. 383/410hp. maybe that will tell you more of the set-up i have :seeya
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

does it downshift to 2nd at 70-75.?
Mine does in Drive @wot.; winds 2nd to 90. But that is with 3.08 gears.
3.08 is better for anything except 0-25. They even absorb less HP.
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aren't they 3.70 gears. 3.73 wont fit in the pumpkin from what I have heard. :confused:
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Default Re: top end with 3:73 gears? (erika1977)

i don't know what valve float is.
Someone will probably correct me on this (I sucked at physics) but it's basically all about mass and momentum. Momentum=Mass x Velocity. Heavier mass lifted at higher speeds creates more momentum. Ideally, the lifter should stay up against the lobe of the cam. When the lifting momentum of the lifter/pushrod exceeds the capacity of the valve spring to push it back down, you have valve float. The lifter comes off the lobe and the valves stay open too long. Hydraulic Flat Tappets and Hydraulic Rollers weigh more, so they have a tendancy to float above 6,000 rpm's. Mechanical rollers and lifters weigh less, therefore they create less momentum and allow for higher revs before the springs can no longer overcome the momentum.

OK fella's. Flame away. :cheers:

P.S. I went and checked out the motor. Nice package for $3,200. It does have Hydraulic Flat Tappets, so a safe place to figure your redline would be around 6,000 rpm's.


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373's are after market gear sets.
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