HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp.
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HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp.
Well I am back on the job at day two and I am having a problem with fish eye in 5 spots on the deck lid. The first time it happened I squirted the areas down with the dx330 and then roughed them up with scotch brite. I then re-shot the area and there they are again so this time I sanded the areas and then applied a liberal amount of dx re-shot and again in the same place. Tried a third time with the same results in the exact same areas. What gives am I doing something wrong? Every other peice has sprayed fine. :mad :confused: :smash: :crazy:
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (wadew10)
I'm sure you'll get some other ideas but my 1st thought is to get out the dremel tool and carve/grind a small hole/crater in each of the spots, apply vette filler, sand and reshoot. I had 2 maybe 3 spots that had fish eyes on my nose I just painted and that's what I did and everything seemed to seal up fine after I removed a little material.
Keep us posted with the solution that you get to work.
Keep us posted with the solution that you get to work.
Melting Slicks
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (wadew10)
What do "fish eyes" look like? There's some "bubbles" on my drivers door...I've been thinking about sanding them down and hoping it doesn't sand all the way to through the basecoat.
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (wadew10)
Before you start grinding, try this. Clean out the areas with reducer on a rag...remove all the fisheyes/DP. Let it dry some. Feather it out a bit with 400 (easily), scuff the surrounding areas with scotchbrite & clean with dx again. Dont soak the area with dx. When you clean with this, wipe the area then follow up and dry the area with a clean & dry paper towel. The first pass applies the cleaner, the next pass removes the contaminents. You probably have too much dx residue in the area. Next spot the area with DP using thin coats by triggering. Dont apply the stuff too wet.
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (SteveA)
Thanks for the replies. SteveA you are probably right I may have gotten a little DX happy. I will try your suggestion and let everyone know how this works out. I have the panel really straight and don't want to start grinding on it unless I absolutely have to. :cheers:
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (Rockn-Roll)
Are they raised or sunken? If they are raised the paint is probably lifting or rust/moisture is forming underneath. Sanding wont fix. Fisheyes are sunken craters that appear when applying paint due to the paint pulling away because of contaminents on the surface.
Sorry ...this reply was meant for rockn-roll......
[Modified by SteveA, 7:58 PM 5/24/2002]
Sorry ...this reply was meant for rockn-roll......
[Modified by SteveA, 7:58 PM 5/24/2002]
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (wadew10)
Thanks for the replies. SteveA you are probably right I may have gotten a little DX happy. I will try your suggestion and let everyone know how this works out. I have the panel really straight and don't want to start grinding on it unless I absolutely have to. :cheers:
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (74-Roadster)
The DP should not be that thick. By lightly feathering,scuffing and cleaning the surrounding area after dabbing & removing the fisheye, the surface should still be level enough after spotting it in where the subsequent surfacer and blocking will take care of the leveling of the surface for finishing. The less filler the better.
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (SteveA)
Sorry ...this reply was meant for rockn-roll......
[Modified by SteveA, 7:58 PM 5/24/2002]
[Modified by SteveA, 7:58 PM 5/24/2002]
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Re: HELP!!! Fish eyes in dp. (Rockn-Roll)
Let me tell you what I have learned from Lars and what I experienced last year when I painted my car. Fish eye is caused by silicon, the only thing dx330 WILL NOT remove is silicon. I found that oil like from your skin will cause wrinkles instead of fish eye. I tried using a silicon remove my paint store had called polycracker. I dont find that this worked as well as expected, but after several coats of base in the same area, around the driver side fender, they went away. The grind trick mentioned above will probably work, just sanding won't, but a good silicon remover should do the trick.
