oops, sounds like disassembly time
Air Cleaner Intake Install Problem
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From: Warren MI
Air Cleaner Intake Install Problem
I thought that loosening/moving the fan shroud would help in the removal /install of the front crossover brake line on my ’78. Don’t think it helped or was needed.
I also removed the air cleaner intake snout that’s over the radiator/AC condenser which took a good pull to remove. Big mistake as I'm having a problem getting it back in because it hits the condenser.
I removed the fan assembly which gain about half of what’s needed to go over the condenser. Since the shroud’s LH mounting foot hits the upper radiator hose, I was thinking about removing it along with the alternator and A/C compressor to get it out of the way more. If that works just hope getting the shroud back in place won’t be another problem.
The other way is to move the condenser but access to that seems impossible with the hood in place.
Anybody else make this dumb mistake? Comments welcome.
I also removed the air cleaner intake snout that’s over the radiator/AC condenser which took a good pull to remove. Big mistake as I'm having a problem getting it back in because it hits the condenser.
I removed the fan assembly which gain about half of what’s needed to go over the condenser. Since the shroud’s LH mounting foot hits the upper radiator hose, I was thinking about removing it along with the alternator and A/C compressor to get it out of the way more. If that works just hope getting the shroud back in place won’t be another problem.
The other way is to move the condenser but access to that seems impossible with the hood in place.
Anybody else make this dumb mistake? Comments welcome.
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Here's some pics showing the opening in the radiator support frame, the piece inserted and and closer view of it against the condensor. If I push down on the shroud as hard as I can, I still lack about a 1/2" or so of going over the condensor. There is a notch on the bottom of the piece to rest on support frame although there is a piece of foam that belongs right there too.
As you can see the LH mounting foot is against the radiator hose. I'm going to remove that first to see if I gain enough room. If not, the alternator and A/C compressor are next.
As you can see the LH mounting foot is against the radiator hose. I'm going to remove that first to see if I gain enough room. If not, the alternator and A/C compressor are next.
Last edited by wptski; Aug 7, 2012 at 03:03 PM.
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could you ,with a pry bar, gently pry on either end of that and work it from each end till its back in? looks like if you were careful it might slide in. I dont see your upper radiator mounts , but you could loosen them and lean the radiator a bit also. I have to confess, my 76 looks nothing like that.
Last edited by oldalaskaman; Aug 7, 2012 at 03:12 PM.
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Here's the problem, the intake piece does not go completely under the top of the core support, it splits it. In other words, the plastic intake piece has a horizontal split, part goes over the core support lip and part ges under.
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Shouldn't need any disassembly, just yank the intake piece back and guide it forward again with the top of it over the core support lip and the bottom of it under the lip, should go in with the shroud in place.
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Are you trying to somehow slip the whole duct UNDER the rad support??
Like he said, it splits, lower half under and upper half over.
That "missing" section of foam on the top of the support is not missing, it doesn't go on for these years. The duct takes the place of the foam, regardless of what the AIM may say.
That "missing" section of foam on the top of the support is not missing, it doesn't go on for these years. The duct takes the place of the foam, regardless of what the AIM may say.
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From: Warren MI
Should have took the pics before I started too.
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Are you trying to somehow slip the whole duct UNDER the rad support??
Like he said, it splits, lower half under and upper half over.
That "missing" section of foam on the top of the support is not missing, it doesn't go on for these years. The duct takes the place of the foam, regardless of what the AIM may say.
Like he said, it splits, lower half under and upper half over.
That "missing" section of foam on the top of the support is not missing, it doesn't go on for these years. The duct takes the place of the foam, regardless of what the AIM may say.
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I don't see any indication in your pics that there was ever any foam stuck to that center top section of the rad support.
Any foam installed somehow inside the duct would just block air flow through the duct.
There are some approx 1" X 1" foam strips that get tucked down between the radiator and the support from above after everything is pretty much assembled. I see them in your pics.
But I've never seen any tucked under the duct.
There are also foam strips down both sides and across the top where the radiator contacts the rad support. Maybe one of those pulled out with the duct.
Any foam installed somehow inside the duct would just block air flow through the duct.
There are some approx 1" X 1" foam strips that get tucked down between the radiator and the support from above after everything is pretty much assembled. I see them in your pics.
But I've never seen any tucked under the duct.
There are also foam strips down both sides and across the top where the radiator contacts the rad support. Maybe one of those pulled out with the duct.
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From: Warren MI
I don't see any indication in your pics that there was ever any foam stuck to that center top section of the rad support.
Any foam installed somehow inside the duct would just block air flow through the duct.
There are some approx 1" X 1" foam strips that get tucked down between the radiator and the support from above after everything is pretty much assembled. I see them in your pics.
But I've never seen any tucked under the duct.
There are also foam strips down both sides and across the top where the radiator contacts the rad support. Maybe one of those pulled out with the duct.
Any foam installed somehow inside the duct would just block air flow through the duct.
There are some approx 1" X 1" foam strips that get tucked down between the radiator and the support from above after everything is pretty much assembled. I see them in your pics.
But I've never seen any tucked under the duct.
There are also foam strips down both sides and across the top where the radiator contacts the rad support. Maybe one of those pulled out with the duct.
There was a piece of foam sticking out the bottom on the RH side when I first started this job which belonged between the radiator and condensor.
EDIT:
I did install the intake piece yesterday and foam under it filling that opening but it isn't very tight. It was glued at one time. I wonder if it was glued to the underside of the intake piece? I'm going to remove it to look for marks.
Last edited by wptski; Aug 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM.