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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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Perhaps I'm spoiled by newer cars, but I expected the car to start quicker once the TPI + HP EFI were installed.
Does this seem slower than normal?
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Are there settings to modify cranking fuel? I did this on my 87 Corvette to get it to start quicker.
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Yes. Did you add or remove?


The Cranking Fuel table is the amount of fuel injected while the engine is cranking. The base tables should be fairly close for most applications. If this table is too low, an engine may have extended cranking before starting. Increase the value at that engine temperature and see if the startup improves. If an engine starts and is “loaded up” (too rich) with fuel, these values may have to be decreased. Engines always require more fuel when they are cold.
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For the L98 computer, I added. IIRC, the L98 computer had a modifier for fuel amounts based on amount of time cranking.

What is the current setting?

Try adding a little and if that helps, keep going until it stops having an effect and then back off a little bit.

If it doesn't help, as the instructions say, you need to go the other direction.
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At 70F, about 26 lb/hr
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That actually sounds like a lot... is this a 4 injector system or an 8 injector system?

I think TPI was doing around 10-12lb/hr when cranking, but that's through 8 injectors.
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It's a TPI manifold with 8 22lbs injectors, the value changes based on coolant temp, from -40 to 260, 20 deg inc.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Judging from that I'd say it's some portion of total... so I'd go up and give it a shot.

Only way to know for sure is to experiment. Let us know!
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I agree on adding. Almost seems like your cranking till enough fuel is in there to kick.

Similar to the pump the carb if cold steps.
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Have you checked your fuel pressure? Most pumps have a check valve so fuel pressure doesn't bleed down when you shut it off. If either the check valve or the regulator lets the pressure bleed down, then you'll get an extended crank untill fuel pressure builds.
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Does yours use the cold start injector?
89 up (didnt) and they crank a tad longer
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Does yours use the cold start injector?
89 up (didnt) and they crank a tad longer
This is true, but I switched to an 89 tune in my car (which eliminates the cold start injector) and fixed the long start by going through the process I mentioned above. I doubt Holley's EFI programming or wiring has the capability to pulse a cold start injector.
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Originally Posted by Learning_Curve
Have you checked your fuel pressure? Most pumps have a check valve so fuel pressure doesn't bleed down when you shut it off. If either the check valve or the regulator lets the pressure bleed down, then you'll get an extended crank untill fuel pressure builds.
No, new pump, new lines and new injectors. I have the Holley EFI set to 5 second prime, so even if I prime the pump before starting it starts the same way.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Does yours use the cold start injector?
89 up (didnt) and they crank a tad longer
No cold start, Holley EFI
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Judging from that I'd say it's some portion of total... so I'd go up and give it a shot.

Only way to know for sure is to experiment. Let us know!
I'll try it out this weekend hopefully
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Added 20% fuel, no improvement, gonna try removing 20%
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spin the starter ....faster
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Originally Posted by moonsteel
Added 20% fuel, no improvement, gonna try removing 20%
Might try smaller increments as well.
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