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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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What is everyone using these days for clutch pilot bushings? Going to be placing an order soon, but not sure what the best to go with would be...

Bushing:

http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G

Bearing:

http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....Z5Z5Z50000050G

Kevlar:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-BU656K/
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Best one you can get.
Make sure and size it to your input shaft before installing the trans. It may be a bit snug which is Ok but if you get a real tight one installing will be a pain plus you run the risk of it spinning. Got lucky mine wore in Ok but squeeled like a pig at first when the clutch was pushed in.
Had good luck with lakewoods
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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I would call Autogear and get theirs, as you know it will be real oilite bronze. Seems buying local is hard not to get the steel ones. My Autogear fit perfectly.

Bill
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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If you're using a Muncie or B&W ST10 use a bushing. I got mine from Summit. I heard you can't use a bearing as it will chew up the shaft on those older trannies.

I checked multiple times and I had 0.002" clearance between the bushing and my shaft.
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Thanks for the reply's so far...I will be using a Tremec TKO-600 if it makes any difference?
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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The best is to use one of the Bearings instead of a Bushing. But the only way to corectly install one is to do it in a press before the Crank is installed in the Block. Since its probably a little late for that then a Bronze one is the best bet and 99.9 % of Cars on the road are useing them. If you get it at your local auto parts store take a magnet and it holds the bushing hand it back and say You want a real Bronze one. A quik slip fit on what ever Trans stub shaft you are going to use should tell You if its the correct fit. As far as I know every GM spec Trans is the same, maybe not.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MOR-41100/

This is what I put in front of my TKO600. It looked identical to the one that came with the kit that Dinged up. My buddy runs this on his M22 also.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 69ttop502
I would call Autogear and get theirs, as you know it will be real oilite bronze. Seems buying local is hard not to get the steel ones. My Autogear fit perfectly.

Bill
AUTOGEAR! it's one of the only ones being marketed where you know your getting the correct material. Many of the suppliers have Chinese crap in their inventories now, if a magnet will stick to your bushing, it will squeel like a pig going to slaughter down the road.

Kevlar material is interesting development, but at over $40, it seems expensive and I'm not willing to "beta test" parts in my clutch system.
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Originally Posted by Gale Banks 80'
The best is to use one of the Bearings instead of a Bushing. But the only way to corectly install one is to do it in a press before the Crank is installed in the Block. Since its probably a little late for that then a Bronze one is the best bet and 99.9 % of Cars on the road are useing them. If you get it at your local auto parts store take a magnet and it holds the bushing hand it back and say You want a real Bronze one. A quik slip fit on what ever Trans stub shaft you are going to use should tell You if its the correct fit. As far as I know every GM spec Trans is the same, maybe not.
You can run into problems installing bearings on older cranks if they are out of tolerance and crush the outer race too much. This was learned the hard way by me years ago, crank hole was 0.008" too small. Bushings are FAILPROOF!
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Originally Posted by Solid LT1
You can run into problems installing bearings on older cranks if they are out of tolerance and crush the outer race too much. This was learned the hard way by me years ago, crank hole was 0.008" too small. Bushings are FAILPROOF!
I have learned the hard way as well crushing a couple of the bearings myself. Thats how I found the right way to do it, I read the Moroso instructions. I have never remember'd since to have a bearing installed before it goes in the block, and probably never will remember. So I will just be content useing the real Bronze Bushings like every body else. They work just fine.
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