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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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While installing a new cam, I thought it would be best to replace the fuel pump while everything is open and easy to get to. The old pump came out easily. My questions here are:
What pump should I buy and do I need one with a return line fitting?
Do I need a pressure regulator?
My setup is a '73 454 with a 750 Holley and a 230/235 cam.

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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
...What pump should I buy...
A stock replacement.

...do I need one with a return line fitting?...
Was there a return line on the old one? Do you have two lines at the frame?

...Do I need a pressure regulator?...
No.

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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:17 PM
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Mike,
Yes, the fuel pump has a return line fitting. It connects to a slightly smaller line that goes back to the tank. Should I get a new pump from the local Auto Zone, or buy one from Zip? Is there any advantage with a Holley pump that does not have a return line feature?
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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Get one with a return, that is to combat vapor lock.

Unless you are running dry/lean at high RPMs go with a stock pump IMO.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
Is there any advantage with a Holley pump that does not have a return line feature?
The lack of a return line is a DISadvantage
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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put in the return line.... vapor locking is all ready a problem in the summer with C3's... if you do not run this line your summer fun may not be so fun...
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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The most annoying / embarrassing part of my '70 when I got it was vapor locking due to the return line being blocked off. Run one or regret it!
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Ok, it's 5 to nothing in favor of the return line. I'll find a stock pump and be happy.

Thanks to everyone!
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Any recommendations for "flushing" or cleaning a return line that has been idle for years? Temporary in-line filter at the rear?
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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When I installed a new fuel tank, I had my son hold the fuel lines hoses in a pot so I wouldn't get gas all over the garage. Instead, the air blew out the gas so fast that it hit the pot and then went all over my son's face It was funny for me but not so much for him. Especially since he doesn't really like working on cars. He just helps me sometimes because he's a good kid.

The moral of this story is; put a rag over the end of the fuel line your blowing out.

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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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If you don't plan on pushing more power down the road (who does that?) then the stock is fine, if you're like the speed junkie rest of us, an upgraded mechanical and a regulator at the carb (used just for the return line) will feed it for a long time down the road. As with everything, it all depends on what your future plans are.
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2Quickrides,

I don't understand what you mean by the "regulator at the carb (used just for the return line).

Does this regulator you speak of have a discharge port that dumps fuel to maintain steady pressure? And therefore, I would plumb it to the return line?

Please clarify,
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Originally Posted by JohnRR
2Quickrides,

I don't understand what you mean by the "regulator at the carb (used just for the return line).

Does this regulator you speak of have a discharge port that dumps fuel to maintain steady pressure? And therefore, I would plumb it to the return line?

Please clarify,
John
Yup. While it's not necessary for most mechanical pumps, mounting a regulator up at the carb inlet maintains a more stable pressure and gives a return line option to eliminate the vapor lock issue.
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A stock replacement pump, no regulator required, is said to be adequate for 500 HP. It works on my car. No need to complicate things.
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Who in their right mind would be happy with 500 horsepower?
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BKbroiler
A stock replacement pump, no regulator required, is said to be adequate for 500 HP. It works on my car. No need to complicate things.
Yup.
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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. .keep it simple and stock....no need for fancy parts...available at every parts house locally and you might just make a friend at the local place...face to face communication is worth a bunch as a Internet connection can be trouble some and expensive.........
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