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Jun 12, 2002 | 11:45 AM

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From: TEXASTEXASTEXASTEXAS TEXASTEXASTEXASTEXAS

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Hard Starting Question--

Thought I could find some help on this one in the archives, but 20min. of searching with multiple terms & I can't find anything that's really helpful.

Here's the deal. Starts easy when cold. After warming up and shut down, engine turns over slow and hard, sounds like the starter's straining, then it picks up speed and goes ahead and starts. I don't think it's the starter (not heat soak) & I don't THINK it's the timing, because I've got it sitting at 4degrees of advance at idle right now, and if I understand things right, it's too-advanced timing that can make for hard starting.

JB

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Jun 12, 2002 | 11:50 AM

Fevre

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (JB)

Sounds like heat soak but may just be an old starter. The coils will expand when hot so it starts of slow then breaks loose and turns easier.

Jun 12, 2002 | 12:07 PM

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From: TEXASTEXASTEXASTEXAS TEXASTEXASTEXASTEXAS

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (JB)

Quote:

Thought I could find some help on this one in the archives, but 20min. of searching with multiple terms & I can't find anything that's really helpful.

Big duh-eee. There's a CURRENT thread on this same topic. I should look a little more carefully!

I guess I had heat soak wrong--I thought it wouldn't turn over at all until it cooled with heat soak, didn't realize it could make it turn over hard initially and then ease up. Thanks!

NEW QUESTION: I read a thread a while back that said you can use a mini starter from a late model Chevy truck in a vette. Will this work in a BB, and which year/model trucks?

JB

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Jun 12, 2002 | 01:45 PM

PRNDL

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (JB)

JB, of course mine does the same thing. Stopping for gas can get a little tense! :D MJ

Jun 12, 2002 | 03:20 PM

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (MNJack)

Check ground connections and condition of ground wires. Engine will not turn over it you have heat soak. With heat soak the problem is with the solenoid not the starter itself.

Jun 12, 2002 | 03:34 PM

Fevre

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (Steve Grodin)

I guess maybe heat soak wasn't the proper term after all but what I states still applies, the coils will expand over time and adding heat cause them to expand a little more. Then you have the hard hot start. Not sure if a bad ground would show up ONLY when hot, seems it would be at least intermitant but still worth looking into.

Jun 12, 2002 | 03:40 PM

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (JB)

Don't throw away the starter just yet. I have the same problem. Installed a new stArter. Also a heat blanket. Checked all ground connections. No remedy as of yet. Will keep looking. I am sure that This was not intended by Chevy, so there's got to be a different answer than the mini starter....

STEFAN

Jun 12, 2002 | 03:43 PM

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Re: Hard Starting Question-- (JB)

yes a starter from a 94-98 chevy truck with 5.7 will fit I got mine at a junkyard for 50 bucs with a lifetime warrenty yes it is smaller like a mini also high torque not sure if it fits big block havent got one of them yet