454 Paperweight
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Racer
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Humboldt county Ca
454 Paperweight
I have a chance to pick up a Summit 454 with 5000 miles on it for $600. The numbers show it to be a 96-up, 4 bolt block, Gen VI. The heads are iron vortec, 98-up, 100 cc. No intake or carb but otherwise complete. The engine was in a truck and running when the seller bought it and he said it sounded good. This would be a project to eventually replace the 350 in my '75, auto. It appears to be one of the reman engines that Summit sells from what I can deduce on their site.
I don't mind yanking the motor apart and checking everything before I stick it in the car and I've got plenty of time to do that.
My only worry is being stuck with a 454 paperweight if the motor has internal problems. My 600 dollar cheapie could turn nasty on me real fast if that's the case.
Thoughts?
I don't mind yanking the motor apart and checking everything before I stick it in the car and I've got plenty of time to do that.
My only worry is being stuck with a 454 paperweight if the motor has internal problems. My 600 dollar cheapie could turn nasty on me real fast if that's the case.
Thoughts?
Safety Car
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Bridgewater nj
The biggest headache would be water in the oil but if that checks out have everything magnafluxed to make sure there are no cracks. Big block are pretty tuff but sleeving a cylinder or decking the block is not to expensive. From what I understand those motors are slugs unless you spend the money on heads to build good HP.
Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2006
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From: League City Tx
Peanut port heads on that BB...
Tear it down, inspect it, if its in good shape, slap it back together and throw it in...
If it needs boring, put some 10-1 mini dome pistons in it to help build compression, then slap a set of some old 049 or 781 oval ports on it and you have a 500hp build right there for cheap.. Throw a decent HYD flat tappet cam or better yet a solid flat tappet cam in it and an RPM air gap intake.
11 sec car easy..
Tear it down, inspect it, if its in good shape, slap it back together and throw it in...
If it needs boring, put some 10-1 mini dome pistons in it to help build compression, then slap a set of some old 049 or 781 oval ports on it and you have a 500hp build right there for cheap.. Throw a decent HYD flat tappet cam or better yet a solid flat tappet cam in it and an RPM air gap intake.
11 sec car easy..
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Drifting
Joined: May 2012
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From: Calgary Alberta
Had a 3/4 ton suburban that had one of those 454s in it, or very similar at least. They are indeed sluggish boat anchors if left alone, but it doesn't take much to make them into absolute monsters I don't think. Even the one I had in stock trim but a torque machine, could hit a hill on the highway at 120km/h with a load and the thing wouldn't even downshift half the time because it didn't need to.
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Racer
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 414
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From: Humboldt county Ca
Maybe the heads aren't what I think. The breakdown for #12560241 comes back from the web as "closed chamber, 100cc, Vortec for 1998 and up.
The rest is pretty much what I figured. I won't be back home 'till 1st of April. I'll grab it if he hasn't dumped it by then.
Thanks for all the replies!
Stump
The rest is pretty much what I figured. I won't be back home 'till 1st of April. I'll grab it if he hasn't dumped it by then.
Thanks for all the replies!
Stump