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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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There is a whine in the front of the engine. Any ideas?
It's not the water pump. It sound like it's around the harmonic balancer.


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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Maybe the rubber for the balancer rubbing the cover? After that then maybe a nylon timing gear

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If u have a mechanics stethoscope, with the engine running, place it on the bearing areas of the a/compressor, alternator, and wp to see if u can pick up the noise. It sounds like a bearing to me but it's hard to tell for sure in the video. Be careful.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jud Chapin
If u have a mechanics stethoscope, with the engine running, place it on the bearing areas of the a/compressor, alternator, and wp to see if u can pick up the noise. It sounds like a bearing to me but it's hard to tell for sure in the video. Be careful.
I actually typed close to the same thing exept in the video the belts are already off so I edited with thought #2
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969Corvette
I actually typed close to the same thing exept in the video the belts are already off so I edited with thought #2
Good eye!
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 04:42 PM
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That is a nasty whine, are you sure its not coming from the trans? It sounds like the front pump whine in an auto trans....
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Spent some time with a stethoscope and cannot pinpoint the location. It does seam to resonate more in the block than tranny. You can even pick it up a little in the tailpipe.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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I never like engine wine. I like a good chardonnay or rose' wine with dinner or later in the evening.
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wow, can't say I ever heard that before
gotta be in the tranny.
pull the inspection plate at the torque converter.
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Old Apr 20, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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I'm voting for timing gears.

And since engine damage can result if the chain slips, I think I would take the WP off, break the oil pan seal, and the rest of it and take the timing cover off to be sure one way or the other.

Not intending to give detail instructions above on getting the cover off.

BTW, valve train noise is a type of whiring noise, not what I'm hearing on the video.

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Originally Posted by Super6
I'm voting for timing gears.

And since engine damage can result if the chain slips, I think I would take the WP off, break the oil pan seal and take the timing cover off to be sure one way or the other.
hhmm.

OP, can you make a better, longer sound track.
maybe farther away.
longer, unless you are scared to run it. I don't blame you.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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What about the torque converter? I've had a couple of people around here take listen they think the whine is from the torque converter. Any thoughts?
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im sure you know but does the engine have a gear drive?
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Originally Posted by AP4EVER
What about the torque converter? I've had a couple of people around here take listen they think the whine is from the torque converter. Any thoughts?
remove inspection plate
undo nuts holding tork verter to fly wheel.
push back and spin by hand.

if you can get it back enough that it is totally away from fly wheel,
start car and listen.
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by calwldlife
remove inspection plate
undo nuts holding tork verter to fly wheel.
push back and spin by hand.

if you can get it back enough that it is totally away from fly wheel,
start car and listen.
and its easy
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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AP4EVER
What about the torque converter? I've had a couple of people around here take listen they think the whine is from the torque converter. Any thoughts?
I don't have an auto, so I haven't had this experience. What goes wrong in a torque converter? I thought there was only one moving part in there, at least from C3 time period. I don't know.
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Take a close look at the balancer- I couldn't get the video to run correctly, but just looking at the first frame the front edge of the balancer and the timing pointer look to be nearly the same. It could be the balancer is rubbing on the timing cover.
SInce you have a manual trans, the torque convertor won't be the problem.
Does the sound change when you step on the clutch? Possible t/o bearing?
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I had the outer part of a harmonic balancer shift rearward on the rubber and scrape on the front of the oil pan (or whatever it was... many years ago). It made a horrible screeching noise. A true whining noise from the front of an engine could be the sign of gear driven camshaft unless you know you've got chain drive.
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Hit the starter with a hammer , it could be the gear is hanging on to the flywheel ..
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Originally Posted by diehrd
Hit the starter with a hammer , it could be the gear is hanging on to the flywheel ..
I was thinking the same thing.
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