Non-popup head lights?
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From: Houston Tx
Non-popup head lights?
I am aware that Ecklers and Gulstrands sell kits for non pop-up headlights, but it seems that $700 plus the cost of new lenses seems a little high for a couple pieces of aluminum and plastic.
Are there any other vendors out there? I just can not see how they (Ecklers especially) can charge that much. Gulstrands at least have a LeMans style lens cover that looks like it might have taken some engineering to figure out, but Ecklers is just a piece of plexiglass with some holes drilled in it, for $200.
Please tell me that someone out there somewhere has seen or invented a less pricey alternative. I really don't want to have to fab this part myself but I just don't want to spend the $700 for something that can't cost more that $100 to make.
Thanks for any leads,
Russ
Are there any other vendors out there? I just can not see how they (Ecklers especially) can charge that much. Gulstrands at least have a LeMans style lens cover that looks like it might have taken some engineering to figure out, but Ecklers is just a piece of plexiglass with some holes drilled in it, for $200.
Please tell me that someone out there somewhere has seen or invented a less pricey alternative. I really don't want to have to fab this part myself but I just don't want to spend the $700 for something that can't cost more that $100 to make.
Thanks for any leads,
Russ
Melting Slicks
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (77-4speed)
do you have pop-ups now and are looking to swap/cash trade ?
two members did this a bit ago, and both came out happy I believe...
I know I have the non-pop ups and was toying with the idea of reverting back to pop-ups..... :eek:
two members did this a bit ago, and both came out happy I believe...
I know I have the non-pop ups and was toying with the idea of reverting back to pop-ups..... :eek:
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (ylose)
I have the pop ups now and I was thinking about going to the non pop-ups. I like the look of the non pop-ups better. If your interested in trying to work something out let me know. My computer at work won't let me IM, so just pop me an e-mail to discuss. russellfulks@hotmail.com
Russ
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From: epping nh
Re: Non-popup head lights? (77-4speed)
Russ
had the car all apart today to take the pictures of my lights for you and the dig cam batteries died. Got some new ones of my fan install will try to get some for you.
had the car all apart today to take the pictures of my lights for you and the dig cam batteries died. Got some new ones of my fan install will try to get some for you.
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From: Carencro LA
Re: Non-popup head lights? (77-4speed)
I too am interested in switching out to Non Pop Up lights but, I am going to keep my pop up assemblies incase I want to switch back. I found another vendor recently here in Louisiana...Try Vanacor's Corvette.
URL = http://www.vanacorvette.com. They don't however have the lexan lenses that cover the assembly.
URL = http://www.vanacorvette.com. They don't however have the lexan lenses that cover the assembly.
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (Chris80)
I really like the style that rainman posted, but I also like the flat style.
Subboz,
Thanks for helping me out with those pics. As you can probably tell, I'm leaning towards building my own. The price just seems unreasonable to me. I know it's a good product, but like everything else "Corvette" the markup is at least 400%. My brother has a 65 mustang and he needed to replace his rear taillight lens. I told him it was pretty expensive as I recently priced them from Ecklers for my 77 ($50 each x4), well I looked around and the replacements for his 65 mustang cost...........$5 each x2. 20 times more expensive for the corvette set.
Anyhow, any others out there running non pop-ups?
Subboz,
Thanks for helping me out with those pics. As you can probably tell, I'm leaning towards building my own. The price just seems unreasonable to me. I know it's a good product, but like everything else "Corvette" the markup is at least 400%. My brother has a 65 mustang and he needed to replace his rear taillight lens. I told him it was pretty expensive as I recently priced them from Ecklers for my 77 ($50 each x4), well I looked around and the replacements for his 65 mustang cost...........$5 each x2. 20 times more expensive for the corvette set.
Anyhow, any others out there running non pop-ups?
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (ylose)
do you have pop-ups now and are looking to swap/cash trade ?
two members did this a bit ago, and both came out happy I believe...
I know I have the non-pop ups and was toying with the idea of reverting back to pop-ups..... :eek:
two members did this a bit ago, and both came out happy I believe...
I know I have the non-pop ups and was toying with the idea of reverting back to pop-ups..... :eek:
ylose........I swapped pop ups for non pop ups with 7882vette a couple of months ago.
Same story...non pop ups TOO expensive. But wanted the look for my paint job. :cheers: :cheers:
Here is a couple of pics of mine.
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (77-4speed)
Try this site, and yes they do sell them.
I asked for a price and they sent me a reply pretty quickly. http://www.acp-euskirchen.de/
I asked for a price and they sent me a reply pretty quickly. http://www.acp-euskirchen.de/
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (OzVette75)
The link you posted was in German. Am I missing something? :crazy:
How did you get hold of them and what was the approximate cost.
Thanks,
Russ
How did you get hold of them and what was the approximate cost.
Thanks,
Russ
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From: Elkhorn WI
Re: Non-popup head lights? (DaBo)
do you have pop-ups now and are looking to swap/cash trade ?
two members did this a bit ago, and both came out happy I believe...
I know I have the non-pop ups and was toying with the idea of reverting back to pop-ups..... :eek:
:seeya :seeya :seeya
ylose........I swapped pop ups for non pop ups with 7882vette a couple of months ago.
Same story...non pop ups TOO expensive. But wanted the look for my paint job. :cheers: :cheers:
two members did this a bit ago, and both came out happy I believe...
I know I have the non-pop ups and was toying with the idea of reverting back to pop-ups..... :eek:
:seeya :seeya :seeya
ylose........I swapped pop ups for non pop ups with 7882vette a couple of months ago.
Same story...non pop ups TOO expensive. But wanted the look for my paint job. :cheers: :cheers:
he is the one I was thinking of....or half of the two.. :lol:
:cheers:
I am open for the thought....haven't thought of it much yet...still wrapping up my rear-end project....all new or rebuilt 3.70 and suspension.. :yesnod:
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (ylose)
ylose,
Would you be willing to share a little more information about your rear end work? I am about to start the same job this weekend and was wondering what you did, where and what parts you bought, how much it all cost. If you would be willing, I'd really appreciate the specifics. You can e-mail me at russellfulks@hotmail.com
Thanks, :cheers:
Russ
Would you be willing to share a little more information about your rear end work? I am about to start the same job this weekend and was wondering what you did, where and what parts you bought, how much it all cost. If you would be willing, I'd really appreciate the specifics. You can e-mail me at russellfulks@hotmail.com
Thanks, :cheers:
Russ
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From: Sacramento California
Re: Non-popup head lights? (77-4speed)
Who would want to install "non" popup headlights? To me, that was one of the attractions of the C3's lines.
I understand that everybody has their own tastes, or maybe the ones I'm thinking of are real cheap ones.
If you want some square headlight ones, I have a set that came with my basket case that I have contemplated tossing out just because they are sooooo ugly! :U
I understand that everybody has their own tastes, or maybe the ones I'm thinking of are real cheap ones.
If you want some square headlight ones, I have a set that came with my basket case that I have contemplated tossing out just because they are sooooo ugly! :U
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From: Stockton Ca
Re: Non-popup head lights? (subboz)
I like your setup. Wouldn't this be called "recessed". I'm tired of the problems that go w/stock vac set up! Where did you get this, how much and how much work? Any dowmside I should know about?
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (427basketcase)
I personally like the look of the bubble glass covered headlights or even the flat glass style headlights. Oh, and of course Oliviers headlights are awesome!
427basketcase, if you have extra non pop-up lights that you are looking to get rid of, please let me know. Maybe we can work something out. You can drop me an e-mail at russellfulks@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Russ
427basketcase, if you have extra non pop-up lights that you are looking to get rid of, please let me know. Maybe we can work something out. You can drop me an e-mail at russellfulks@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Russ
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Re: Non-popup head lights? (77-4speed)
No, you weren't missing anything.
Someone else posted pics of this setup before, I just sent an email asking about price and availability, here is the answer I got:
Hi Neil,
here are the prices for the Headlight-Kit you`re requested;
Lamps (4) 350€
Lower Cover (Aluminum,must be painted) incl. all Hardware you need 300€
Upper Headlightcovers are from Eckler`s and must be painted from inside Price in USA 199$
Hope this could help you
Best Regards
ACP Mike
Not sure if those first numbers are Euros or DM, anyone know?
Someone else posted pics of this setup before, I just sent an email asking about price and availability, here is the answer I got:
Hi Neil,
here are the prices for the Headlight-Kit you`re requested;
Lamps (4) 350€
Lower Cover (Aluminum,must be painted) incl. all Hardware you need 300€
Upper Headlightcovers are from Eckler`s and must be painted from inside Price in USA 199$
Hope this could help you
Best Regards
ACP Mike
Not sure if those first numbers are Euros or DM, anyone know?
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From: Exiled Tampa Bay Misfit
Re: Non-popup head lights? (OzVette75)
I'm sure you have all seen the Breathless Performance C5 popup replacements. They now also make them for c4s. They both look sweet as they are contoured covers and not just flat plastic (which is what I dislike about the Eckler's kits). I emailed them last week to see if they were going to make them for c3s. I'll let you know what they say.
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