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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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Hi there,
my 350cui / MT Corvette has an engine vibration problem.

It is not related to driving the car it is related to the engine rpm... occurs around 1500 rmp and disappears above 2000 rpm.

The entire clutch assembly has been replaced already as well as the rear transmission mount/rubber cushion. The engine rubber mounts look ok. Also the balancing weights on the fly wheel are still there and the balancer/pulley seems to be ok as well.

Has anybody experienced the same, has an idea what the issue could be and/or fixed it!?!?!

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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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I had a vibration that I could not find for the longest time. Then I replaced the transmission mount (my cars a A/T) and it went away. Turns out that my exhaust on my right side was laying (more like pinched between the hanger and cross member) against the cross member. The new mount lifted the exhaust up.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 07:32 PM
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Roco 71 by replacing the transmission mount did you not raise the height of the tranny? by this action you changed the phase angle which may have reduced the vibration further.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by billcarson
Roco 71 by replacing the transmission mount did you not raise the height of the tranny? by this action you changed the phase angle which may have reduced the vibration further.
The old mount was sure enough wore out and had more than one ill effect more so than I wold have guessed for such a simple fix.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Could be a loose alternator, power steering pump, AC compressor, etc. Check all those mounting bolts.
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Does it do it with the clutch depressed or not?

Vibrate at 2k, 4k etc or just in that one area?
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by René K.
Hi there,
my 350cui / MT Corvette has an engine vibration problem.

Also the balancing weights on the fly wheel are still there and the balancer/pulley seems to be ok as well.

Has anybody experienced the same, has an idea what the issue could be and/or fixed it!?!?!

Thanks in advance...
René
If you have a 350cid engine it is or should be internally balanced. The flywheel should be neutrally balanced, no additional weights should be on the flywheel. Same for the harmonic balancer. Now if you have a 383, then I think you should have balance weights on the flywheel and harmonic balancer, 'cause that engine would be externally balanced


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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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Did you center the bell housing with relationship to the crank. Probably not this but just a thought.
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The harmonic balancer are known to slip on the rubber insulator or you have a 400 flywheel on your 350???
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Years ago, my family's then brand new 79 Malibu with a 305 had a wobbly balancer. When you were idling in drive, the harmonic vibrations caused the steering wheel to almost blur. Brought it back to the Chevy dealer to complain, and the $%&* service manager offered to balance the front wheels and do a front end align to fix the problem.
Can you believe they are still in business?
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteZO6
If you have a 350cid engine it is or should be internally balanced. The flywheel should be neutrally balanced, no additional weights should be on the flywheel. Same for the harmonic balancer. Now if you have a 383, then I think you should have balance weights on the flywheel and harmonic balancer, 'cause that engine would be externally balanced


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People still use 400 cranks for 383 builds???
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Hi folks,
thanks so much for all your comments!

All I can say is that the clutch system is entirely new... and that the vibrations have been there before the clutch exchange... but they have been much worse. However, the vibrations are annoying!

Unfortunately I cannot tell what has been done to the engine "invisibly" but from a first point of view everything looks original.

I do not know if AC Delco delivers poorely balanced Clutch Sets but I will check all related components.

If any new idea occurs what the root cause could be... just let me know!

Thanks...
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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You've covered every thing that rotates . My bet is a cylinder firing problem at that range. Then it cleans up with more rpm. Check plug wires if every thing looks original still...........good luck......
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Originally Posted by René K.
Hi folks,
thanks so much for all your comments!

All I can say is that the clutch system is entirely new... and that the vibrations have been there before the clutch exchange... but they have been much worse. However, the vibrations are annoying!

Unfortunately I cannot tell what has been done to the engine "invisibly" but from a first point of view everything looks original.

I do not know if AC Delco delivers poorely balanced Clutch Sets but I will check all related components.

If any new idea occurs what the root cause could be... just let me know!


Thanks...
René
If the vibes were there before the clutch change but was the flywheel replaced or just resurfaced?

If you replaced it I wound move up to the harmonic balancer.
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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I did not do or check anything the last days because I was busy. However, I would again like to thank all of you for your comments.

Back to the car... the flywheel was not changed nor reworked... it was not touched at all but the surface looked ok... no marks no heat marks... nothing. The spark wires have been replaced a few years ago... together with the coil, Petronix ignition and Edelbrock carb & intake.

I will check PS, WP, Fan, Alt... and also all the belts. We will see...

Have a great weekend!!!

Cheers...
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Hi guys, this is the German Guy again!

I did some investigation and found out the following...

There are small "rubber-pieces" squeezing out of the area in between the inner and outer ring of the balancer... so this might be one reason for vibrations due to movement of the balancing weight!?! If this is the case the ignition timing might be misaligned as well!?! In addition, I found out that there is kind of a vacuum leak (at least I would guess it is a small one) between the carburator, the brake booster and the small round die-cast distribution-connector (one "in"... two "out") for the other vacuum controlled systems. So, with an Edelbrock Performer carburator and intake manifold where would you connect the vacuum for the brake booster and the "rest"... both on the carburator or one on the manifold and the other on the carburator!?!

Thanks again so much for all your help!

Best regards from (meanwhile cold and rainy) Germany!!!

Cheers...
René
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 01:44 PM
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Today I had the chance to take a picture of the pulley/balancer. There is a piece of rubber squeezing out from the gap in between. Could this be an indication for a worn balancer... and ultimately causing vibrations.

I know, a SB is an internally balanced engine... but is it possible, that a balancer with a moving weight could have a negative impact to the internal balance!?!

Thanks again for all you help so far!

Cheers...
René
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Originally Posted by Bagmup
People still use 400 cranks for 383 builds???
Instead of them using a 383 crank for their builds. Oh wait they don't make 383 cranks, do they
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yep that will cause a vibration
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
yep that will cause a vibration
Is it difficult to change/replace the balancer if I have the required tools? Anything to think of in detail? Any advise?

Thanks a lot!!!

Cheers...
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