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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:36 PM
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71' 454 chevy suddenly developed irradic idle, backfire through exhaust, hard start,dwell around 6 and timing way off. What do I do? Thanks.
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Dwell should be 30*. I say it's time for a new set of points, condenser and an overall tune-up.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 12:12 AM
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ck that you didn't blow-out the power valve
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 12:16 AM
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Cam gear/timing chain issue? Distributor drive gear?
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 12:50 AM
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It could be as simple as the points slipping or the rubbing block breaking. When the dwell changes it changes the timing. Either replacing or possibly even just resetting the points might fix everything.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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...Cam gear/timing chain issue? ...
That gets my vote.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
That gets my vote.
When the base timing suddenly changes its usually the result of the timing chain jumping a tooth.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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Points are good. power valve ok. can't find any vacuum leaks. so it sounds like the worst. So jumping a tooth on chain can happen all of a sudden just sitting in the garage idleing and tuning the carb? will a one or two tooth jump bend pushrods and valves?
By the way thanks for all the response.
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They can go without warning at anytime. I had one jump at highway speed in an old truck; shut down like a switch on that one. The slack in the chain starts to whip and, if its bad enough, catches a tooth and jumps.

If you have stock(ish) cam and pistons they will never hit. You will be fine with no internal issues.

The good news is that its not a bad repair on our motors.
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Can the distributer cause my problems? I noticed it will remove about 1/4 in on rotation and about 1/8 in up and down.
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Points are good.
Not if the dwell is 6*.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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even with a jumped timing chain the dwell should be ~30.
Because it´s not, the problem is in the distributor.
Something moved or bent inside. First get the dwell right, then timing.
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