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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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I've been trying to get the 73 running all day. I took the MSD cap off my Vette, and the MSD Superconductors. It's got new spark plugs. All I get is back fires threw the carb and it runs real rough. Do i need to advace or retard? Which way is which??

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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 08:07 PM
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Advance would be turning clockwise.
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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Double check the plug wire routing - it's easy to mix up. That will sometimes cause backfiring.
They should be: 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2

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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 09:06 PM
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If you have a Holley carb on that thing, you may find that your powervalve has been mortally wounded by the backfiring.
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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Aaron:
It sounds like your engine is too far retarded (no I'm not trying to insult your engine :D). For the record:

Advance = Counter-Clockwise
Retard = Clockwise
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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I've got a Holley on my Vette. The 73 has a Q-jet. I think it would gain more from an Edelbrock or Holley. But oh well. We've checked, re-checked and checked the wiring order. I think It's just a timing thing. :yesnod:

Well, then I advanced it as far as I could, and It still did it....hmm... :confused:


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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 10:37 PM
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Aaron:
Backfiring through the carburetor can also be improperly adjusted valves. If your valve lash is set too tight, what you are experiencing will happen. Come to think of it, too far advanced will cause the problem you are experiencing. If you are too far advanced, you will be igniting your mixture while your intake valve is still open (thus the backfire through the carb). The easiest way would be to hook a timing light up and set your timing that way.
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 11:00 PM
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Is this the first time after mods or after a major tune?

Either way backfiring is either timing off (dist. inserted and not on TDC of #1), crossed wires, or valves too tight.

Crank your engine over until #1 is on TDC on the timing marks as you are feeling for compression. Take a look where the rotor is pointing. #1 on the towers is straight out. Maybe a couple of teeth off?? Once you get TDC the dist. should be right on the money with the rotor on #1 terminal. Advance CCW a small amount and that should be plenty to start. This is the place to start from.
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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If you have a Holley carb on that thing, you may find that your powervalve has been mortally wounded by the backfiring.
:yesnod: :yesnod: They're notorious for that :cry
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Unless it is a newer Holley with the blow out protection.

I would check the to make sure your dist is aligned correctly.


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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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The motor was running two hours before. Nice and strong. The valves are okay. The rotor on TDC is right below the #1 tower. I think it's just a timing issue, but I'm not dealing with it anymore, my dad took over.
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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I see the engine Gremlin has stopped by your garage. Glad to see he decided to leave mine. :jester
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 01:09 PM
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Aaron:
I don't mean to alarm you, but what you are experiencing is also indicative of a flat cam lobe(s). I hope this is not the case.
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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Aaron,

Ken has a micrometer right? Check the vavle lift on all cilinders, that way you'll notice soon enough ig a lobe is flat.

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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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It could be the Accel coil. I had one of those flake out on me and cause a major backfire through the carb that bent the Q-jet throttle plates! :mad It happened when the coil got hot. I will never use one again!!!
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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This has got to be the best diagnosis of a problem I have seen on the forum.

"I see the engine Gremlin has stopped by your garage. Glad to see he decided to leave mine. "


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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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I also I'm having a "timing issue" , had a backfire split one of my mufflers wide open :eek:
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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Plug wires did it to me. I had 8 and 4 swapped and blew the filter off(it wasn't bolted down)
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Old Jun 26, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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It's a pretty fresh motor. It's just a timing problem. Trust me. But, like I said, it's no longer in my hands.
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