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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 10:24 PM
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I am slowly moving along in my frame off.

I have bought a vb & p suspension kit and new offset trailing arms from vansteel so far.

The next thing i am saving for now, is the diff. So this might be one of those asked before questions.

I dont want to go the old school 15 inch. As i want a performance tyre on it.

So i was looking at 17 or 18's. My current modern car has 19x235x40 ( pretty sure). But i dont want 19's. So i know i will feel it, bumps that is

Can some people here post a pic of there size/tyre combo so i can see how they fit on the car. Rim style not worry about, just the size.

All this because i am trying to figure out a diff ratio. I know 1st you want around 10 on the stats.

I am using that great spread sheet with all the calculations on it, that i got from these forums.

I am leaning towards 3.7 or 3.9 ATM, but that is using the default type size on the spreadsheet.

i am looking at a ls2 engine and a 200r4 manual auto ( none of these i have bought yet).

Pics aways .
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 12:39 AM
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I'm sorry if I'm missing something obvious here, but how exactly would pictures of 17 and 18 inch wheels help you pick a diff ratio?

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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 03:27 AM
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i know it sound wierd. But.

You know how some type/rim combos dont look right. I am trying to look at the sizes and see how it fits in the car. As in what looks crap or not.

Then once i know a size, say 18x245x40 ( the last nuber the most important i asume), i can put that combo in a calculator and pick a right diff ratio.

Like i dont want to buy, say a 3.7 then pick a tyre/rim size and say "should of got the other one).

I already own a car with a ls2 engine in it, so i know how it behaves at whatever rpm.

The spread sheet i got off some member here ( sorry i forgot who) , is a great calculator, type anything it , gearbox, typre size , then it shows speeds in 5mph and what the rpm will be.

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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirk76
i know it sound wierd. But.

You know how some type/rim combos dont look right. I am trying to look at the sizes and see how it fits in the car. As in what looks crap or not.

Then once i know a size, say 18x245x40 ( the last nuber the most important i asume), i can put that combo in a calculator and pick a right diff ratio.

Like i dont want to buy, say a 3.7 then pick a tyre/rim size and say "should of got the other one).

I already own a car with a ls2 engine in it, so i know how it behaves at whatever rpm.

The spread sheet i got off some member here ( sorry i forgot who) , is a great calculator, type anything it , gearbox, typre size , then it shows speeds in 5mph and what the rpm will be.
The trick to getting bigger wheels to look "right" is to keep the tire diameter as close to stock tire diameter as possible. That's going to be about 27 inches. Plus, you don't have to worry about speedo gears, and diff gears, it's a win-win. 17"x8" wheels with 255/50/17 tires is a popular choice. Google a tire size calculator online to see tire diameters for different size tires.

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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
The trick to getting bigger wheels to look "right" is to keep the tire diameter as close to stock tire diameter as possible. That's going to be about 27 inches. Plus, you don't have to worry about speedo gears, and diff gears, it's a win-win. 17"x8" wheels with 255/50/17 tires is a popular choice. Google a tire size calculator online to see tire diameters for different size tires.

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What Scott is saying. If you stay with a 27" tall tire no matter what diameter or width you choose you should have no problem.

What are you looking to do? Do you want the same size front and rear?
Do you want 17s or 18s. If you go with 17s about the only size you'll find that's 27" tall is the 255/50-17. If you go with 18s a 255/45-18 and a 285/40-18 are both about 27" tall.
If you do a search using "17s" and "18s" you will find several threads with lots of pictures.
I hope this helps.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 08:58 AM
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Here's a picture of mine with 17"x9.5" rims 275/40 ZR17 tires front and rear, with an overall tire diameter of 25.55". My ground to center wheel lip height is 26.5" front and 27.5" rear. I also have a VBP suspension and offset trailing arms.

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Here are my 17's (235/55-17). 255/50-17s will also fit and are the same height. But, they are a bit wider and may require some minor trimming inside the front fenders. Glad you liked the spreadsheet.

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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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sorry dc3 i forgot your nick. It make calculations so easy.

Was looking at maybe 18's back and 17's front.

255/50-17

285/40-18

if i pick the same i think i would go 255-50-17, but was trying to get a 275 or 285 back.

I should of thought of the 27inches to start with... Speadsheet time.

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Originally Posted by Dirk76
sorry dc3 i forgot your nick. It make calculations so easy.

Was looking at maybe 18's back and 17's front.

255/50-17

285/40-18

if i pick the same i think i would go 255-50-17, but was trying to get a 275 or 285 back.

I should of thought of the 27inches to start with... Speadsheet time.
There is no reason to have different diameter wheels front and back. If you want to go a little wider in back, that's ok, just pick a profile that will give you a tire diameter similar to the front tires. Personally, I like all 4 wheels and tires to be the same. I like the look, and it's just easier that way. It's a sports car, after all, not a muscle car.

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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 01:49 AM
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True.


Ok

Now can anyone recommend a good place that biulds diffs.

Need complete package.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk76
Was looking at maybe 18's back and 17's front.

255/50-17

285/40-18

if i pick the same i think i would go 255-50-17, but was trying to get a 275 or 285 back.

I should of thought of the 27inches to start with... Speadsheet time.
Something to think about. That 17 and 18 combination IMCO will not look right. While the overall tire height will be the same but the front tire will have more sidewall than the rear tire. It may not bother you but looking at the car from the side it just doesn't look right. If you want to go 17s and 18s (and that's your choise) you would need a 255/45-17 in the front to match the 285/40-18 in the rear. Again your car and you need to pick what will make you happy not me or the rest of us for that matter.
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if you do 17s front and 18s rear, you need to run a shorter front tire with the same sidewall size as the rear. look at motorhead's car, he's running a 17/18 combo and it looks great
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Originally Posted by qwank
if you do 17s front and 18s rear, you need to run a shorter front tire with the same sidewall size as the rear. look at motorhead's car, he's running a 17/18 combo and it looks great
I don't like the look, myself, makes the car look like an old Gasser......hmmmmmm, that might not be a bad idea..........anyway, I don't like it, but it's a free country and all, so if you like it, maybe send Motorhead a PM, and ask him about his setup. If you have never used an asymmetrical setup like this, (I have, just not on a 'vette.) be aware that there will be some minor inconvieniences, like rotating tires, and sizing the spare tire, and so forth.

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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Oh well atleast that is one of those decisions i can put off.

Anyone bought a diff ( complete ) from a good place thet can recommend.
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Pm sent.
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Oh well atleast that is one of those decisions i can put off.

Anyone bought a diff ( complete ) from a good place thet can recommend.
Mike (aka tracdogg2) comes highly recommended. I'll be talking with him in the near future about my '73.

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