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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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I am trying to get a deal done for a 1969 350/350 4 speed. Matching numbers decent shape, needs love. It shows some rust on both uprights of the windshield frame. How hard is it to rplace these, and if not too far gone what would you recommend as far as refinishing instead of replacing? Sorry if this had been dicussed before. I'm a newbie. Thanks in advance.
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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You might want to consider letting this one go. If you can see windshield frame rot, there are likely to be additional birdcage problems.

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Any other thoughts?
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969 350/350
Any other thoughts?
You better be getting this car for almost nothing if the windshield frame is rotted.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969 350/350
Any other thoughts?
Been there done that. $7-10K labour plus parts.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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It really comes down to how bad they're rusted. Around here, almost every Corvette I look at, has some rust on the lower A-pillars. Sometimes it's just surface rust, sometimes it's more.

You need to determine how much rust there is, before you run away!

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Been there done that. $7-10K labour plus parts.
Ouch!

The local Corvette shop I deal with, gets about $2,000 to repair the A-Pillars. That includes cutting and replacing the fender tips and repairing the cowl area, but not paint (usually he's repairing them on cars that are in his shop, for paint anyway).

If he has to replace A-pillars because they're to far gone, and/or the windshield frame header, that adds another $1,500 in parts and labor.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gbvette62

Ouch!

The local Corvette shop I deal with, gets about $2,000 to repair the A-Pillars. That includes cutting and replacing the fender tips and repairing the cowl area, but not paint (usually he's repairing them on cars that are in his shop, for paint anyway).

If he has to replace A-pillars because they're to far gone, and/or the windshield frame header, that adds another $1,500 in parts and labor.
Mine was worst case. The little flaky bits dropping out of the windshield frame were the least of my worries, as it turned out.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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I don't know how extensive it is. It may just be surface rust. Any way to tell how bad it is?
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Generally speaking this kind of rust repair is the most difficult and expensive to repair. Unless this car is the one you gotta have I would recommend avoiding it and looking at another car. I spent 3 months repairing the birdcage damage on my 71 and its not easy to do right.
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Originally Posted by 1969 350/350
I don't know how extensive it is. It may just be surface rust. Any way to tell how bad it is?
Is the windshield trim still on the car? You will not know how bad it is until the trim is off and then if rust is present only after the windshield itself is remove. With the kick panels off what does the inside of the door post look like?
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That's what I was looking for. Where to look to see the damage. Thank you Roco.
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If the trim is still around the windshield its not likely that the owner will remove it for you to inspect it. Look at the pillar post on the driver side. Looking through the windshield you should see the Ven number plate. Look for rust around it and look to see if the plate is lifting. Open the doors look at the hinges what does that look like any rust lines? If the kick panels are off look inside the post. Also difficult to spot but the lower windshield corners under the surround (top of fender) is a real bad spot.
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Got any photos.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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No pics. The doors open and close rock solid. They don't sag and close with one finger. That's why I don't think it's bad.
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Originally Posted by 1969 350/350
No pics. The doors open and close rock solid. They don't sag and close with one finger. That's why I don't think it's bad.
What makes you think there is a rust issue?
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I saw a bit at the bottom of the windshield, but don't know the extent. I was asking to see what worst case scenario could be.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 1969 350/350
I saw a bit at the bottom of the windshield, but don't know the extent. I was asking to see what worst case scenario could be.
The worst case is one you want to avoid for sure it would mean removing the front clip and firewall. I quick suggestion, google C3 birdcage repair look in the image tab plenty of examples to view.
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Actually, if the rust is limited to just the A- pillars (possible but not very likely) it can be repaired fairly easily because it is accessible. You can replace the windshield for around $300, and the frame can be repaired while it's out. It may not be THAT bad once you get the glass out and can see exactly what's there.

What that rust DOES indicate is the potential for other problems in the birdcage...if the owner won't let you pull the kick panels out of the footbox to see how bad the birdcage really IS rusted, just walk away unless he's willing to give the car away. Again, making repairs to the windshield frame is relatively easy compared to having to dig into the guts of the 'cage, which literally requires disassembly of the entire car
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. I've got to look at it alot better and decide.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Check out this link its a active thread of a forum member repairing his WS frame.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...ps-please.html
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