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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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vacuum line is back to a port with vacuum at idle
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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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ok. think I got it right now.

no vac idle 8*
with vac idle 24*
no vac 4000 rpm 21*
with vac 4000 rpm 36*
I thought you said you read Lars paper on setting timing? Maybe you should read it again. Don't worry about what your timing is at idle.

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Old Sep 12, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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it seems to run ok. and does buck the starter, doesn't ping under load.

good nough!
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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
ok. think I got it right now.

no vac idle 8*
with vac idle 24*
no vac 4000 rpm 21*
with vac 4000 rpm 36*
No vac at idle 8*
No vac, rev engine to get 36*. What RPM? Based on your answer, will need to adjust springs/timing/etc..

From your statement above, if you are only getting 21* @ 4000rpm without vacuum, you have a problem.

Connecting the vacuum at idle and reading what the timing is was only to determine if you are using ported or manifold vacuum. You aren't making any timing adjustments at this point. Manifold vacuum is preferred over ported vacuum for the street.

Again, take it to someone who understands what they are doing and can TEACH you. A local speed shop, Corvette club, etc..

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Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
ok. think I got it right now.

no vac idle 8*
with vac idle 24*
no vac 4000 rpm 21*
with vac 4000 rpm 36*
OK, here's what it sounds like you have done here:

Idle with no vac is at 8*. Idle with vac is 24*. This tells you that your vac can is pulling 16*.

4000 rpm, no vac 21*. This tells you that your mechanical advance has advanced by 13*. That's pretty low, it should be closer to 20* or so, for a figure of around 28*. It's probably not fully advanced at that rpm.

With vac 4000 rpm 36*. This is telling you that your vac can is pulling 15 degrees of advance. 15, 16, it's probably just a slight error in reading it.

Conclusion: You probably need lighter springs to bring the mechanical advance in sooner, and about another 8* of initial for it to be at 36* all in. This would put your initial at 16*, initial with vac at 32*, all in mechanical advance at 36*, and cruise at 52*. (assuming your distributor is giving 20* of mechanical advance.) It ain't rocket surgery, man.

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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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so now I should be looking for 36* with out vac at 2500+ RPM.

Wonder if the weights could be stuck/sticky
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so now I should be looking for 36* with out vac at 2500+ RPM.

Wonder if the weights could be stuck/sticky
I suppose that's possible, maybe you could hit them with a quick shot of wd-40 or something similar.

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Old Sep 14, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Take off the dist cap and rotor and do a visual and rotate the shaft. If it snaps back and the weights are moving freely then it ain't that.
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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
so now I should be looking for 36* with out vac at 2500+ RPM.

Wonder if the weights could be stuck/sticky
That's pretty much what you should have been looking for all along. Have you re-read Lars paper? Everything you need to know is in there.

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Old Sep 15, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Now that you have it running good enough, just take it to a car show or local get together and ask anyone with any GM there if they can show you. Visual might be best and I'm sure many there would offer, might start a mutual car friendship.

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