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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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i plan to do a crank kit in my stock 73 L48 this winter, while Iam there I have a new set of flat top pistons Iam going to throw in .

are the heads worth even rebuilding, I can get a set of 305 vortecs for 200. but they will need a going over. and a vtech performer for 125

and (opening can of worms) can anyone recommend a cam

all stock 73 350/4speed 3.55gear
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What is your budget and goal, a stock looking vette or race car?

What is a crank kit.... a 383?

Why are you installing flat top pistons? Low compression is one of the problems an L-48 already has. It also has small valve heads and a slug of a cam.

If you're going to build an engine, up the compression to 10.0-10.5/1 and install big valve heads 2.02/1.60. Your choice of heads and compression will help decide which cam to use.

If you build the engine to L-82 specs, but with 10.0-10.5/1 compression, you'll be in the 350hp (gross) range.

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/..._dyno_testing/

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Why are you installing flat top pistons? Low compression is one of the problems an L-48 already has. It also has small valve heads and a slug of a cam.
Stock L48 came with dished pistons, flat tops would be an improvement.

OP, do you have the 882 heads? You would be best to upgrade to a 64cc cylinder head.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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If you're on a budget, take a look at these heads:

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Flo-Te...lug,25118.html

And this cam kit:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...make/chevrolet

The Flotek heads have a very favorable intake/exhaust ratio, so a straight grind cam should work well.

There are better heads and cams out there, but you're gonna pay for them.

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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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definitely a budget, maybe 500 bucks.

what ever head is stock.
flat tops cause I already have set hung on rebiult rods.

just a weekend driver, far from a racecar.

crank kit is just a stock reconditioned crank. kit is only 125.oo, I have all gaskets already.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
definitely a budget, maybe 500 bucks.

what ever head is stock.
flat tops cause I already have set hung on rebiult rods.

just a weekend driver, far from a racecar.

crank kit is just a stock reconditioned crank. kit is only 125.oo, I have all gaskets already.
You're possibly opening a can of worms. Here's why. Your cylinders have a ridge where the rings stop. Even a tiny ridge can snap a ring so you'll have to use a ridge reamer. This is ok but it leaves hp on the table and you may run into a problem with blow by because your cylinders our honed out past spec.
If you're diving in that deep, it's worth it to go the extra $5-600 to have the block boiled, bored, honed to the pistons you are using!
Question; are you experiencing any knocking or low oil pressure problems?

If not, go with the heads to wake her up.
If you are, a 383 kit is the best bang for the buck
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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get a set of 350 vortec heads and matching intake, they have new chamber designs and will out perform the old 441/882 heads. They are easier to find, cheaper, and will increase your compression ratio
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I spun a rod a while go and put in -.02 bearing, when I get about 3500 rpm I can hear it.
the pistons are std bore, the engine is stock with 57k .

are 305 vortec the same as the 350/5.7 vortecs
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I spun a rod a while go and put in -.02 bearing, when I get about 3500 rpm I can hear it.
the pistons are std bore, the engine is stock with 57k .

are 305 vortec the same as the 350/5.7 vortecs
not sure but I would check into it
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ok.
looking at these parts.

350, stock bore, flat tops. stock vortec heads, performer intake. stock Q-jet.
4 speed, and 3.55. headers and side pipes

need a cam though , recommendations ? flat tapped hyd or solid
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It does seem like you are opening a can of worms. You have a limited budget and are miss-matching parts together based on cost or availability.

As stated above, the block should be boiled, bored, honed to your new pistons. What will your compression be with flat tops installed? Big heads, big cam, and low compression isn't the best combination.

You may want to rethink or wait till you have a bigger budget. No point in tearing the engine apart and getting less than stellar results. It sounds like you would be better off buying a crate engine to drop in.
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so flat tops and vortec s are a bad combo ?, are the vortec 64cc cambers ?

not trying to disagree, tyring to learn.

crete engine is not in the budget at all
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so flat tops and vortec s are a bad combo ?, are the vortec 64cc cambers ?

not trying to disagree, tyring to learn.

crete engine is not in the budget at all
According to http://www.customclassictrucks.com/t...l_block_chevy/ the flat tops and vortecs will put you at 10:1 compression and for can cam do hyd flat tap to save on cost. Specs for can are going to be small to reuse stock converter
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no converter, its a 4 speed.
interesting article, 10 to 1 with a heavy truck might cause donation, but in a vette where would we be.
maybe back the timing down a few degrees,
what about a cam with some over lap to bleed off some cylinder pressure?
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
no converter, its a 4 speed.
interesting article, 10 to 1 with a heavy truck might cause donation, but in a vette where would we be.
maybe back the timing down a few degrees,
what about a cam with some over lap to bleed off some cylinder pressure?
A 10.0/1 compression engine will run fine on pump gas. You won't need to back the timing down or bleed off cylinder pressure.

With the way you are going about this rebuild I doubt you'll have a true static 10.0/1 compression (and dynamic will be even less). What is your deck height, thickness of head gaskets, etc., etc.?

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Originally Posted by 4 speed
no converter, its a 4 speed.
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what about a cam with some over lap to bleed off some cylinder pressure?
I was thinking the same thing, nothing with huge lift or long duration, but nice idle, good mid range tq will make the car fun to drive, keep the rpms below 6k. If you decide down the line to build another engine the vortec head will support up to 500 hp without doing lots of machine work.
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You got a casting number for thos 305 vortec heads? Let's find out what we're actually talking about here.

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This is just me but I would save up some and do the engine right. Boil the block, get it machined and honed. Go with roller Hydraulic lifters and roller cam. That way there will be no cam break in required. Get a decent set of modern heads. Stay under 10:1 compression.


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Originally Posted by 4 speed
ok.
looking at these parts.

350, stock bore, flat tops. stock vortec heads, performer intake. stock Q-jet.
4 speed, and 3.55. headers and side pipes

need a cam though , recommendations ? flat tapped hyd or solid
Are you changing to long tube headers ? I do hope so, you'll gain a lot from this change compared to those shorties !
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
so flat tops and vortec s are a bad combo ?, are the vortec 64cc cambers ?

not trying to disagree, tyring to learn.

crete engine is not in the budget at all
If you are trying to learn, do a lot of research. Determine what you want from the new/modified engine. Many ways and parts available to accomplish the same goals.

Over several years, starting with purchasing a good set of heads that were used on the stock L-48 set up, I added other parts, incrementally. After 3 years I had a stroker!

Except for the heads, headers, and intake, and carb, which came from the L-48, my budget allowed me to build what I wanted.

What I built was:
383 stroker
'0' deck block
Hyper cast pistons with 12cc dish
Built using a 4 bolt bottom end
10.4 static CR - runs on mid-grade fuel with no problems @51* total timing. Basic timing all in by 2400 rpm
CC XE274H cam

There are many ways (parts) that can be used to get your desired results, but you have to know what you want, to match the parts.
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