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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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In prepping my vette for daily driver status, the rain leaks that have been ignored all these past 20 years are in need of addressing (ignored em since until now the car goes out one-two times a month in nice weather and sits in the garage the rest of the time).

I've noticed two leaks when in the rain, one leak ha water dropping from the upper windshield interior trim and the other underneath the dash on the driver's side.

My speculation: I removed the upper windshield trim piece and while there is a little rust on the surface it seems to be intact (to my untrained eye), the windshield has been replaced before and may/may not have been sealed properly, weatherstrips are a bit aged, side a/c vents are not functional and stuck open.

Before our ownership the car lived outside but seeing as it is a florida car and with us its been garaged the past 20 years (and its a 78'=20 years indoors, 16 outside) should hope that birdcage rust shouldnt be a big issue as it might be in a car that's been parked outside all its life.

Lastly I came across a thread where someone put some 4th of july smoke bombs in a can in the interior, shut the door and waited to spot smoke coming out. Thoughts on this method?
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 09:46 AM
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Lastly I came across a thread where someone put some 4th of july smoke bombs in a can in the interior, shut the door and waited to spot smoke coming out. Thoughts on this method?
I have to imagine that leaves an bad odor.... I wouldn't try it but that is just me.

Some shops have a smoke machine that is used to test vacuum leaks - maybe that is a better solution?

Mine had a pretty bad leak and it turned out the seal along the sides of the front window was pretty much not even making contact anymore, although mine was original I think. Mine did not look that bad with the window in but once it was pulled things were revealed to be a little bit worse than originally thought.





From the inside, it didn't look too bad


This side revealed some signs but still nothing too serious.

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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 09:56 AM
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what extent of repair did that take, ive seen a thread where someone had the birdcage completely reconstructed, but for something like this i shouldnt think it would be so grave
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what extent of repair did that take, ive seen a thread where someone had the birdcage completely reconstructed, but for something like this i shouldnt think it would be so grave
No, we are in the middle of patching everything. To do this repair "correctly" or if the damage was more extensive, the entire front clip would need to come off.

It was bad enough that it poured water all around the driver-side and pretty bad through the top as well in both the rain and washing.
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 01:40 PM
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Check to ensure the windshield header leak is not the weatherstripping on the t-top. Mine was.

Seal the wiper trough (I used 3M automotive undercoating from the rattle can) and you may get rid of the drip under the dash.

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Check to ensure the windshield header leak is not the weatherstripping on the t-top. Mine was.

Seal the wiper trough (I used 3M automotive undercoating from the rattle can) and you may get rid of the drip under the dash.

Id thought of doing that after watching one of those flex seal tv commercials but I'd be more prone trust the undercoating over some tv stuff
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Id thought of doing that after watching one of those flex seal tv commercials but I'd be more prone trust the undercoating over some tv stuff
Tell ya the truth, the Flex Seal might be 3M undercoating in a different can.
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I think so too, but seeing as 3m is a reputable brand and billy mays (may he rest in peace) isn't around to endorse the other stuff I'm inclined to stick with 3m
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i vote for Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing, 3M. always better than Billy Bubba stuff
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When I sealed my wiper tray I used a body seam sealer from Eastwood to seal the joints applied with a brush. Then spray coated the entire tray with 3M (rubber) sealer. It looks great and is water tight.
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