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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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Ok guys, my belts were squealing when I first fired up the car a couple weeks ago. So... I replaced both belts. Problem solved, so I thought. Now when I get the car up to 75 they start squealing. Any ideas why? They seem to be tight with no play
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Which engine? And is the water pump pulley 2 or 3 grooves?

Here is the AIM for 69 w/427- there is a belt that runs between the crank and water pump only- if it's missing it squeals.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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454, water pump has 3 grooves
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Bottom right picture looks correct, except my air conditioner has been removed
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That AIM picture should apply. I have p/n's for the belts for my 69. They may not apply to the 73.

Dayco 15325 Crank to Water pump
Dayco 15445 Crank to water pump to Power Steering
NAPA 25-08003 Power Steering to Alternator

Use caution if your setup has the crank to water pump belt without an idler pulley. Too lose and it still squeals, too tight and it eats the bearings in the water pump. You have to remove the fan to install.
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There is no idler pulley
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I think previous owner screwed up belt setup.

Mine has 1 belt for crank,water pump & power steering

Then a small belt for power steering and alternator
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Should there be a idler pulley on it?
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Has your assembly instruction manual arrived yet? The AIM will show the correct belt routing for your car (Tim's pic is an AIM page) and will show the idler if one was used on your car.

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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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No I haven't had a chance to order it yet, was going to do it this weekend
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Originally Posted by Arny73
I think previous owner screwed up belt setup.

Mine has 1 belt for crank,water pump & power steering

Then a small belt for power steering and alternator
I have a 427 bb in a 69 vette, 1 belt for crank,pump & power steering small belt power steering to alternator
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Check your radiator and hoses for leaks...perhaps you are getting coolant on the belts.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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That doesn't seem to be the problem Dave, no coolant on the belts
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I fought this exact same issue and TimAT has hit your solution exactly.

Generally speaking - this issue is somewhat common after the removal of the AC compressor when the empty belt grooves (where the AC belt was) are not used. The AC belt grooves must be used - a crank to water pump belt is needed in it's place or you will get belt squeal. I tried different belts, widths, brands, new PS pump, etc. Nothing solved it until I ran that belt. No more squeal.

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a good belt that is seated deep in the pulley should work .or try sanding the inside of the pulley grove a little .
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Sanding the pulley grooves did help mine as well. They are 30+ years old and tend to get polished smooth (too smooth). Adding in a belt from the crank to the water pump also gave me a little peace of mind over just one belt on the water pump.
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Originally Posted by Arny73
I think previous owner screwed up belt setup.

Mine has 1 belt for crank,water pump & power steering

Then a small belt for power steering and alternator
I guess your AIR system is gone too?
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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Yes mike they are.


I will try to get a belt on there this week and see what happens, thanks guys
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