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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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The shift pattern is very "tight", (owner having a difficult time "feeling" what gear he's shifting to).
Is there a modification that can be made to this?
Is there an alternate shifter handle that will help?
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 02:47 PM
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I had the same problem getting used to the TKO. I kept missing 3rd gear at high RPM. During Autocross shifting at 6000rpm. I practiced the shift hundreds of times with the engine off and found the following works well.

When in 2nd gear and ready to make the shift to 3rd gear do the following:
1. Release throttle
2. Step on clutch
3. Push the shift lever forward to the neutral gate with your palm.
4. Pause slightly and the shifter will naturally move to the right.
5. Push the shifter into 3rd gear again just using your palm.
6. Release the clutch pedal.
7. Step on the gas.

I am now able to complete these steps in an instant. If you try to physically move the shifter from 2nd to 3rd by gripping it you end up in 5th or getting stuck in neutral. It is simply two quick pushes forward to go from 2nd to 3rd.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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I experienced the same issue with my TKO but it only took some seat time to get over it. Now it's very comfortable to shift
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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You can adjust the position of the shifter forward or backward.
But it won't take much time at all to get used to it, or, " break it in".
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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its a easy fix, change the stock shifter there junk, I put a steeda shifter in it one of the best things I did on my car, gives you shorter shifter throws, and 2nd to 3rd is now dead on, cant beat it.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 509 rat
its a easy fix, change the stock shifter there junk, I put a steeda shifter in it one of the best things I did on my car, gives you shorter shifter throws, and 2nd to 3rd is now dead on, cant beat it.
And they make one for the TKO 600 ? Do they have the big offsets that are so popular with our C3's ? I also have a C4 with the ZF Trans and a B&M shifter which makes my TKO feel like I'm rowing a Boat.
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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 10:42 PM
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The best solution I have read is to use your fingers when shifting from 1 - 2, 3 -4 and 5 - 6 and use you palm to shift from 2 -3 and 4 - 5. If you grab the shifter with a fist-grip you lose the feel of the shifter gate.

I have a T56 with a Hurst shifter and the shorter and tigher pattern takes a little getting used to but once you do it's sweet.



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Old Nov 17, 2013 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 509 rat
its a easy fix, change the stock shifter there junk, I put a steeda shifter in it one of the best things I did on my car, gives you shorter shifter throws, and 2nd to 3rd is now dead on, cant beat it.
509,

Can you post a picture of the shifter you got from Steeda? The one you got is for the offset position, not on the centerline?
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Can you post a picture of the shifter you got from Steeda? The one you got is for the offset position, not on the centerline?
not good at posting pics, call steehda and ask them very helpful when I talked to them.mine is a tko 600.
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Old Nov 19, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 509 rat
not good at posting pics, call steehda and ask them very helpful when I talked to them.mine is a tko 600.
I did call them and they were helpful, except they either don't make a shifter for a TKO600 with the shifter on the left side or they don't know their product line, because they sold me a shifter that definitely was for use on the tranny centerline, not an offset application like a C3. When I received the shifter and saw what it was, I called Steeda and told them what the problem was and they let me return the shifter minus a handling change. Then knowing the problem, they didn't offer an alternative, which is why I am interested in what you bought.
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509,

Is your shifter offset like in the photo below?

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i have this problem, and i road race and hate it!!! my findings after looking into this is there is an "upgrade" kit with better synchros and the like,,, but you need to take the TKO out and apart to do this... I'm in the middle of an engine build right now, but this will be my next "job" I have also found that the transmission does not shift as well with the Centerforce clutch. the TKO wants to see 100% disengagement, with the weights of the centerfource flying around at 7000rpm it pulls the pressure plat down and prevents 100% disengagement..... and as I stated, the TKO needs 100% disengagement
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Old Nov 20, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pauldana
i have this problem, and i road race and hate it!!! my findings after looking into this is there is an "upgrade" kit with better synchros and the like,,, but you need to take the TKO out and apart to do this... I'm in the middle of an engine build right now, but this will be my next "job" I have also found that the transmission does not shift as well with the Centerforce clutch. the TKO wants to see 100% disengagement, with the weights of the centerfource flying around at 7000rpm it pulls the pressure plat down and prevents 100% disengagement..... and as I stated, the TKO needs 100% disengagement
Paul, there is a shifter up-grade from Keisler for their TKO's sold a few years ago and before. The new ones have the better shifter to start with. When I say "shifter" I'm specifically referring to the stick, bearing and spring assembly in the blue housing in the photo above. The new ones are spring-loaded to the 3-4 gate with significantly stronger springs, so the stick pops over from 2nd into the 3-4 gate and you just are pushing the stick forward. You can also send your tranny to Liberty Gear and they have some other separate upgrades.
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if a shifter change would fix this.... im in line!!! thx.... Bit i still know the Centerforce is a problem causer with this transmission shifting at high RPM's...

changing to a twin disk mccloud this week with the engine build... maybe I'll just pop the transmission out for that shifter while im at it... p
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if a shifter change would fix this.... im in line!!! thx.... Bit i still know the Centerforce is a problem causer with this transmission shifting at high RPM's...

changing to a twin disk mccloud this week with the engine build... maybe I'll just pop the transmission out for that shifter while im at it... p
Paul,

I had a Centerforce and I don't doubt what you're saying. I read somewhere that the Centerforce tech line was recommending that the weights be removed in certain, I imagine high rpm, applications.

I love your new clutch, future upgrade for me.
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Originally Posted by Super6
Paul,

I had a Centerforce and I don't doubt what you're saying. I read somewhere that the Centerforce tech line was recommending that the weights be removed in certain, I imagine high rpm, applications.

I love your new clutch, future upgrade for me.
I'm done with center force in all my automotive apps… taking one out of my sons cj5 360 jeep also this week…
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509,

Is your shifter offset like in the photo below?

Its does look like it, I will be doing work on my car where I can look at it better, in a couple of weeks.
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