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Isn't the importance of the compression, the upgraded cam that it let's you use? That's where the horsepower bump is going to come from.
Yessir, but then you need the intake/heads/exhaust to take full advantage of the cam- and I know you know that already. When I went from the stock intake to the Perf. RPM Airgap it made a very noticeable difference. The aluminum heads with solid lifter cam really picked things up. As Hamad said, headers are a big factor. With the right stuff in place you can still make decent power with mild compression. Mine is only 9.5 to 1 and the car traps at just under 120 MPH through the mufflers. The OP could pick up a lot of power with a few carefully chosen parts.
Looked up the cam specs the other day for this LS motor...its a Comp Cam 11-432-8, its 282 intake, 288 exhaust, @.050 230 int and 236 exh. Lobe separation 110.0, roller lifters.
Kinda late, but what do you guys think about this cam spec for this kinda street motor? When I look at other motors the torque is not too bad. Can't wait to see how the motor responds in the car.
You definitely need to get the exhaust sorted... huge fall in torque it's definitely choking from something. I would think that cam should run out to 6000 rpm as long as valve train is stable. If you could post the dyno graph these guys could maybe help a little more.
The exhaust shouldn't be the issue at this point as I was running stock cast manifold and only two feet of straight pipe on the dyno, I'm sure my power will drop a lot once the stock exhaust system-mufflers are installed. The builder did spend some time matching and cleaning up the stock exhaust manifold, it would be interesting to have done some dyno runs before and after but he wanted to get them completed with the engine.
We had the dyno set to 5500rpm, I don't know what the limit of the cam-engine is. We both felt this was a good limit for this engine.
My observation was that *just* a CR change was not going to result in a significant gain at this build level.
The right cam will absolutely make a difference - but the concept of running too much static CR to allow using a too big cam is the dynamic compression craze that I don't subscribe to. Just one guy's take;let's stay on topic.
Sorry for delayed reply, I don't always get a notification on these threads for some reason.
I did understand you were only talking about the HP increase from the compression change itself, without any other changes. (And I know you know your stuff.) I should have been much more direct. I was suggesting that the "right cam" may be a way to more power while still maintaining the stock look of the engine. There are at least 2 guys on CF that I have been in contact with that have recently upgraded to hydraulic roller cams from Chris Straub. One of them has an 8.5:1 CR 454. The other is a 454 also, but with unknown CR. Per Chris, a 50 to 75 HP bump is possible. That's pretty good bang for the buck.
Yessir, but then you need the intake/heads/exhaust to take full advantage of the cam- and I know you know that already. When I went from the stock intake to the Perf. RPM Airgap it made a very noticeable difference. The aluminum heads with solid lifter cam really picked things up. As Hamad said, headers are a big factor. With the right stuff in place you can still make decent power with mild compression. Mine is only 9.5 to 1 and the car traps at just under 120 MPH through the mufflers. The OP could pick up a lot of power with a few carefully chosen parts.
What you describe sounds just like what I did on the 2 big block Vettes that I had in my life... headers, intake swap, then better heads, 62 cams. I agree headers is a biggie. Don't think the OP is going that same route though for budget and appearance reasons. I'm thinking a properly sized custom cam based on his engine, tranny and rear gear specifics, particularly since he has roller lifters already.
No headers just stock manifolds flowing through 2-1/2" pipes to a couple of Allen's Corvette Loud Exhaust Mufflers.
I used to run a Quadrajet but installed an old Holley 800 CFM spread bore double pumper. The motor seemed to love it....a lot more responsive.
Added HEI and it has a Lunati Bare Bones 10201LK Cam
That's an amazing amount of power and torque with a fairly stock setup and stock exhaust manifolds. I haven't seen those type of results before. Well done.