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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 02:36 PM
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Anyone using an Edelbrock EPS intake with a 1" open spacer?

I bought an L88 hood for my car and thought about using a 1" open spacer instead of milling the divider in the intake plenum. Curious if anyone is using this combo and how it is working for you?
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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Not that particular intake, but I do use a 1" open spacer on another car. Spacers are tuning devices and they are very application-specific. Spacer height and configuration (open, split, four hole, taper) will give you a different result on different engines. The only way to know is to try it on your application and see if you get anything from it.

If you pick up power from an open spacer, that in general tells you the manifold wants more plenum volume.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Not that particular intake, but I do use a 1" open spacer on another car. Spacers are tuning devices and they are very application-specific. Spacer height and configuration (open, split, four hole, taper) will give you a different result on different engines. The only way to know is to try it on your application and see if you get anything from it.

If you pick up power from an open spacer, that in general tells you the manifold wants more plenum volume.
I've noticed guys getting performance improvement on the RPM airgap when milling a 1/2 deep notch in the plenum divider. I thought instead of milling the divider I would add a spacer and get the same benefit along with the gains a spacer often returns.

I guess I'll try it and see how it goes.
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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Your logic is sound on the issue. Milling down the divider wall to open the plenum gives each cylinder a look at the total airflow from the carburetor. A spacer does the same thing and also increases the plenum volume.

Neither of those are a power guarantee, though. Your engine may not at all care for the modification.
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My 350 SBC was doing well....so I decided to improve it by adding a 1" spacer.

According to my under-dash vacuum gauge....the engine lost nearly three "pounds" of vacuum and some performance with the spacer.

The spacer is now hanging on the pegboard in the garage.

Other members already said it...."A spacer can help--or can hurt".
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Thanks for the input, guys!

Here is the motor with the spacer under the carb:


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It's pretty easy to remove the spacer, but it would be kinda tough to un-mill the divider, so I think you have made a smart decision. If it's a mild engine, I think the spacer will hurt performance and driveability. Try it both ways, and let us know how it works out, OK?

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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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The motor is a Blueprint Engines roller cam 355. The dyno sheet says 410 HP @ 5700 rpm & 417 ft/lbs torque @ 4300 rpm. It's spunky but not in the bad azz category.

I chose the EPS because of it's good 2500-4500 torque numbers. That's where my motor will spend most of it's life. But, I'd like to enhance it's capability if possible.
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Originally Posted by SteveCurry
The motor is a Blueprint Engines roller cam 355. The dyno sheet says 410 HP @ 5700 rpm & 417 ft/lbs torque @ 4300 rpm. It's spunky but not in the bad azz category.

I chose the EPS because of it's good 2500-4500 torque numbers. That's where my motor will spend most of it's life. But, I'd like to enhance it's capability if possible.
If your engine will spend most of it's life below 4500 rpm, why did you pick an engine with it's torque peak at 4300 rpm? If it's just so you can do a high rpm blast once in awhile, I can dig that.

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Old Nov 23, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
If your engine will spend most of it's life below 4500 rpm, why did you pick an engine with it's torque peak at 4300 rpm? If it's just so you can do a high rpm blast once in awhile, I can dig that.

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Because I want the lumpy idle,... And, the occasional high rpm blast.

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I run a Victor Jr. and a 1" spacer under my Holley 4150. Yes, I need the L88 hood! I have about 1/4" clearance. I am running Energy Suspension motor mounts which keep the motor from rocking/moving.
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Originally Posted by glackore
I run a Victor Jr. and a 1" spacer under my Holley 4150. Yes, I need the L88 hood! I have about 1/4" clearance. I am running Energy Suspension motor mounts which keep the motor from rocking/moving.
I'm also going to use the Energy Suspension motor and trans mounts. I'll have more hood clearance with the dual plane than with your Victor, but no way the EPS and spacer would fit under the small block hood.
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Originally Posted by SteveCurry
Because I want the lumpy idle,...
Well, having the open spacer should help it idle like crap, but it's really just a crutch, if you really want it to idle crappy, get a single plane manifold. A couple of other things that will help are retarding the timing at idle, and adjusting the idle mixture on the lean side. These both will help the engine run like crap at idle, so it will sound cool. An additional benefit is the poor gas mileage you will be able to brag about.

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