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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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I have an 81 I dropped a 380 hp, 383 into with a Super T-10 4 speed.

I still have the stock automatic differential in place and want to rebuild the entire rear this winter.

I have the stock 2.87 ratio in the automatic. It spins the tires in low easily and cruises around 2100 rpm on the highway.

I am thinking I should go with 3.5 for better acceleration, but not sure.

Also, can I put in a cast iron diff from a 79 or earlier?

I have read that the aluminum cased 80-82 danas' are not as strong with higher horsepower than 200.

Any and all advice appreciated.

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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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I was asking the same question a few weeks back .a iron differential will bolt up to the stock cross member of 1980-82 vette .
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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You would be surprised at what a properly built aluminum take.

My experience is that they are stronger than most think.

Have the carrier set up with a steel cap on the left side of the carrier when doing the gear swap.

Also, step up the half shafts to the manual (1350 u-joints).

Everything in the rear (from the pinion yoke to the spindle flange) must be assessed as well to ensure it is up to par.

There is more to making the rear live than just the differential.

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tracdogg sells the steel cap for the dana rear diff .I would like to retain my dana 44 ,but if I ever brake it ,I will install a steel differential.also be concerned about your half shafts ,get HD half shafts with the better U-joints .
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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Can the original batwing alloy cover be used with a cast iron case?
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by garygnu
I was asking the same question a few weeks back .a iron differential will bolt up to the stock cross member of 1980-82 vette .
It will bolt up but the hole for the pinion mount will be 1/2" off.
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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Tracdogg's Dana 44 builds are good up to 400 HP.
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 09:29 AM
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The Vette diff's actually suck. They weren't designed for any real horsepower. GM used lightweight materials and craftsmanship was shoddy - as you would expect from an OEM.


Contact Tracdogg2 on the forum. He is in the DFW area. He set-up mine diff and I am very pleased.
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Tracdogg's Dana 44 builds are good up to 400 HP.
Please don't let my '81 know that.
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Originally Posted by HBZ_81_C3

Please don't let my '81 know that.
Yeah I know you and several other people are cranking much more than that through Dana 44s but 400 is all he is willing to guarantee them for. I think its because of variations in castings.
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Yeah I know you and several other people are cranking much more than that through Dana 44s but 400 is all he is willing to guarantee them for. I think its because of variations in castings.
I don't blame him. Some people can break anything you give them! I've seen it many times. There is a difference between going fast and abuse that some people don't understand. There are good and bad castings though. If a person really wanted to know what he has, he could get it x-rayed.

I am one who thinks the aluminum differential is a lot stronger than given credit. I was not easy on the one in my 80 and it served me well.
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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I am concerned to a degree. The car is an honest 380hp.

I don't race it at all, but do like to get on it a bit. I was surprised how easy it will spin the tires with the gearing for the automatic.

I do have to get the revs up in 1st.

Think I will keep the aluminum case and go with3.54 and contact traccdog.

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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
Yeah I know you and several other people are cranking much more than that through Dana 44s but 400 is all he is willing to guarantee them for. I think its because of variations in castings.
More like variations in driving style. Most people are putting around 600 hp to the rear according to their 1/4 mile times. The castings are pretty much equal, haven't seen much variance compared to an iron diff which is all over the place. What makes one Dana different from another is the original setup when the housing was machined. Housings that had the carrier bearing bores machined deep ended up with thicker caps. The bearing caps sit on a non-machined pad. Why GM never machined the pads still baffles me.
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The aluminum Dana 44 is better than many people give it credit for. After all, it is a Dana. The internals are still cast iron and steel. I've built a few for autocross; one with a 3.54 and another with a 3.73 with no problem. Dana differentials are not simple to setup, but any Jeep, Ford or Corvette expert should be able to build one to last.

The steel main cap sounds like a good idea for massive power. More of a concern is the size of the u-joints in the halfshafts. In an automatic tranmission vehicle the u-joints are smaller than a manual transmission vehicle. The larger output shafts will fit any Corvette Dana 44. I converted two of them already. Also needed are the larger halfshafts and trailing arm yokes. I installed Moroso bearing caps on each u-joint with 3/8" nut and bolt to replace the small retaining strap and 1/4" torx bolt.

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the size of your stall ,or the rpm you dump the clutch at are crucial .how much torque is the engine making ,and at what rpm ?
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