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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 11:28 PM
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So I've collected all the parts I can think of and now its time to start pulling the car apart in preparation for swapping my automatic for a TKO-600. Tonight I pulled out the steering column, instrument cluster, pedal assembly, and brake booster. Much easier than I expected, although I can see reassembly will be a challenge in a couple of spots. But I digress. I trial fitted a few of the parts to see how things will line up. and I realized there is no hole in the firewall for the clutch push rod to go through. So it appears I have to drill the hole. How do I know where to make the hole??? Some input from the guys who have done this conversion would be appreciated.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:11 AM
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I am not going to be much help, but I have completed this on my 1979about 6 years ago and a friends 1980 about 7 years ago. I remember there was a a rigid cover of some sort that had to be removed. The steel plate on the back of the firewall that has the holes that the booster studs go threw also has the hole for the clutch push rod. It seams like the fiberglass had to be cut out of that area. But again its been a while since I did this but I know the provision was there on both cars. The bottom of the hole is even with the bottom of the opening for the fuse box in the below photo. I can take a photo on the inside of the fire wall if it will help. Let me know.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:56 AM
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My 76 had a circular plate attached to the firewall with three screws.Plate is removed then in it's place goes the rubber boot for the pedal rod..I used the speed direct clutch linkage.Makes for a smoother operation and better adjustments....
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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I am not going to be much help, but I have completed this on my 1979about 6 years ago and a friends 1980 about 7 years ago. I remember there was a a rigid cover of some sort that had to be removed. The steel plate on the back of the firewall that has the holes that the booster studs go threw also has the hole for the clutch push rod. It seams like the fiberglass had to be cut out of that area. But again its been a while since I did this but I know the provision was there on both cars. The bottom of the hole is even with the bottom of the opening for the fuse box in the below photo. I can take a photo on the inside of the fire wall if it will help. Let me know.

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I'ts a little hard to make out in the photo, but is that the hole for the clutch rod just to the right of the holes for the steering shaft and brake booster, and slightly above the steering shaft hole, and slightly below the brake booster hole? It looks like its about the right size. I will look again now that I know exactly where to look, but I'm pretty sure there is nothing but smooth firewall there. I expected to find the hole blocked off by a plate. That's what I had heard would be there. I'll keep everyone posted.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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I did a chevy truck conversion about the same time....maybe it was the one I had to cut the hole. I was thinking about it and it and I think there was a plate there.
Yes that is the hole. Also the speed direct linkage as mentioned in the other members post is what I used.
The below is the only photo I could find of the linkage. If I get home in time tonight I will take a few more photos of the hole and linkage.
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I just converted my 81 from Auto to 4 spd. The AIM showed me the location, plus I believe from under the car looking up at the firewall there was dimples for the screw holes and an indent where the hole should be cut for the clutch rod.
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jaybird81
I just converted my 81 from Auto to 4 spd. The AIM showed me the location, plus I believe from under the car looking up at the firewall there was dimples for the screw holes and an indent where the hole should be cut for the clutch rod.
3 dimples on my 77 when I did mine too. It made it simple to locate. You may also have to drill a small hole as I did for the return spring as shown below.




Edit: Now that I think about it, the hole was already there with a grommet in it.

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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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I had a linkage clutch at first with my auto to manual swap. The geometry was off just enough to negatively affect contact with the throw out bearing. Long story short I went with a hydraulic setup from American power train and it works perfectly! I wouldn't go any other way when doing a conversion.
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Thanks, guys. Once I knew where to look I could see there are three small dimples in the firewall. It appears to me that two of them are for the screws retaining the boot, and the other is the centre of the hole for the clutch rod. When I look inside the car, I can see that the hole for the clutch rod is in the two inner metal panels, but hasn't been cut through the fibreglass of the firewall. Should be pretty straightforward from here. Love this forum!
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theres a hole in the metal part of the fire wall already, you can even see the 3 little holes to drill out for your rod boot.

just use the appropriate size hole saw for the rod hole.



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Ok I was not imagining that I had to cut out fiberglass. Here are a few photos of mine right now. The linkage is the lower of the two speed way linkages.

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