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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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Georges post about the 186 mph tire blow out got me thinking about speed rated tires and I've come up with a couple of questions for the forum.
1) At what point are speed rated tires needed, is it only for extended time spans of high speed?
2) If you run rated tires, what size and rating.
Ive never ran a speed rated tire, but did look for 15" rated tires a few years ago and could find any. A friend of mine said that speed rated tires were only needed for etaying at high speeds for an extended time.
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I live in the southwest and I have driven my Vette when it was 123 degrees. The pavement is probably over 160 easy.


Other than just the speed rating you have to buy " A " temp and "AA" traction That is why I went to 17 inch wheels when they first came out because they quit manufacturing "V" and "Z" rated in 15 inch.
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I live in the southwest and I have driven my Vette when it was 123 degrees. The pavement is probably over 160 easy.


Other than just the speed rating you have to buy " A " temp and "AA" traction That is why I went to 17 inch wheels when they first came out because they quit manufacturing "V" and "Z" rated in 15 inch.
So you run 17'' wheels and tires, what is the ratings for your tires? obviously I wouldn't need tires rated for as high on the heat ratings.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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I actually have sets of 17 & 18 inch for street or track. I only buy "W" or " Y" street tires and racing tires don't have a speed rating printed on them.

I don't run interliner tires because they are heavy. Michelin Pilot Sports are the only manufacturer of 335 width rear tires these days. Which just plain sucks.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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From my research on the subject, the only high speed rated (V), 15 inch, DOT legal tire in the proper sizes for these cars is the Avon CR6ZZ. Great tire but get out your wallet. Some day these will be on my car.

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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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From my research on the subject, the only high speed rated (V), 15 inch, DOT legal tire in the proper sizes for these cars is the Avon CR6ZZ. Great tire but get out your wallet. Some day these will be on my car.

Bill
I'll have to look at those. Future plans include going to a larger diameter wheel for the ability to go to a larger tire with out off set trailing arms.
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as of late i have been looking for something a little more high performance in a 15" tire but the sizing is different and i guess some more math is involved. i agree on the avon, i can get 18" wheels and y rated tires for the price of a set of avons,
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as of late i have been looking for something a little more high performance in a 15" tire but the sizing is different and i guess some more math is involved. i agree on the avon, i can get 18" wheels and y rated tires for the price of a set of avons,
Damn that is expensive.
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What top speed do you expect to run?

What tires did you find without a speed rating? Every tire must have a speed rating on it. For example, BFG Radial TA's are S rated which is 112mph.
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i think my lawn mower tire is ( s ) rated id like something at least v rated, the car will easily get there and more is planned. i just like the looks of a 15" tire better but i may end up with 18" before its over. the avons i have seen run 900.00 each if im reading it right.
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
What top speed do you expect to run?

What tires did you find without a speed rating? Every tire must have a speed rating on it. For example, BFG Radial TA's are S rated which is 112mph.
I would say 95% of us will never see 112mph.

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im a 5% er i guess.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
What top speed do you expect to run?

What tires did you find without a speed rating? Every tire must have a speed rating on it. For example, BFG Radial TA's are S rated which is 112mph.
Not that im expecting, but I've held 130 for abot 9 miles, the do have a road race up in tok that id like to take part in.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 7t9l82
im a 5% er i guess.
Times 2.
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For 130mph there isn't much available for 15" tires. Your best bet is to use a different size. Maybe you need 2 sets, one for cruising if you like the stock look and another for the high speed use.

As for entering the road race - you shouldn't be allowed in the class if your tires are rated for the speed.

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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Now we just need to know how fast the OP wants to drive since he was posing the questions. The question just asking if anyone runs speed rated tires is rather redundant because every tire has a speed rating so everyone israted tires.

I guess someone could answer his first question - The tire speed rating should be higher then the speeds you drive. This would be the reason I asked how fast he expects to drive.

Still, you have a valid point. If the answer is > 112mph then there isn't much suitable in 15" tires.
I know all tires are rated, and i might have asked the question wrong, but the engine transmission and gears are capable of more than me and the car. I know that the c3 came with 15" tires and apparently if you want run any thing more than 118 mph rating then itll cost 900 a tire for 15 inch tires rated to the car. So if you run a high speed (130+) rated tire on a c3 what do you run.

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what are drag radials rated for ,maybe run on all for corners .put a smaller drag radial on the front to allow for turning .
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Originally Posted by garygnu
what are drag radials rated for ,maybe run on all for corners .put a smaller drag radial on the front to allow for turning .
I thought of that, but drag radials are softer rubber and would wear quickly. What do you run gary?
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I used to install tires for a living about 22 years ago and most tires are rated with a radial S rating they are good till about 110 MPH then we go up to HR rated Tires which are good to 130 MPH, after that we go into performance tires with a V or Z rating which can handle higher speeds. Their are others that can handle speeds greater 168 MPH but they are specialty tires for drag and cars that are hand built.

Here is very good link to tires and speed ratings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code

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you are correct DRs are soft and probably wouldn't handle the heat for too long .I just have some BF radials .road course racing is like a marriage ,drag racing is like quick sex .
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