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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 12:36 AM
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Simple question.

I am planning my T56 install into my 75 with a 383 2pc rms and a scattershield.

I have a wildwood 3/4" mc and one each RAM and Mcleod hydraulic TOB.

Which one is best?
More reliable?

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bmans vette
Simple question.

I am planning my T56 install into my 75 with a 383 2pc rms and a scattershield.

I have a wildwood 3/4" mc and one each RAM and Mcleod hydraulic TOB.

Which one is best?
More reliable?

Txs
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I used the Mcleod 1400-22 in my T56 swap. It works perfect.. I haven't had it in there long enough to speak to the reliability. The only thing I would recommend is that you use a pressure bleeder when you bleed the system. That was the only way I could get all the air out of mine.
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Which T56? From an LS1 or a LT1??
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Which T56? From an LS1 or a LT1??
Its a LT1 right now but when I have it upgraded I was planning on changing the longer input shaft for the LS1. That way I can use a Quicktime scattershield and an internal hydraulic TOB.

Txs for any info you can provide

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I used the Mcleod 1400-22 in my T56 swap. It works perfect.. I haven't had it in there long enough to speak to the reliability. The only thing I would recommend is that you use a pressure bleeder when you bleed the system. That was the only way I could get all the air out of mine.
+1 for Mcleod.

txs

anyone else?
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Anyone else?
Which Mcleod do You have ? If its the one that needs to have the Pistons changed to adjust do You have the right piston ?
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Which Mcleod do You have ? If its the one that needs to have the Pistons changed to adjust do You have the right piston ?
It is the one that comes in a universal setup.

#1364

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mcl-1364

came with the Wildwood MC - 3/4" bore

Thanks for any help

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The RAM setup is #78170

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ra...0/applications

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added info

any more ideas?

txs
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I have the '85 Chevy 1Ton master cylinder and a GM performance parts LS1 TOB. Works great no issues. I also put a remote bleeder on it so I can bleed it with everything together.
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any more ideas?

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I would assume that both of these are Two Line systems, which means there is the work line going in, and a bleeder line coming out. I would not install a single line system. Sounds like You all ready have a 3/4" Master, that is the one size fits all, and should work OK. If it is to quik to engage, and or You want less peddle pressure, start reducing the master size. This is something You will just need to figure out once You have the system going.
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No mention of what Clutch You are planning on installing. If You are installing an old school stiff spring pressure one then don't use the Hyd system. If You are using a modern Clutch You should be OK. Never buy more Clutch than You need, if a Stage 2 will handle what You have a Stage 5 will only cause trouble.
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Originally Posted by Gale Banks 80'
No mention of what Clutch You are planning on installing. If You are installing an old school stiff spring pressure one then don't use the Hyd system. If You are using a modern Clutch You should be OK. Never buy more Clutch than You need, if a Stage 2 will handle what You have a Stage 5 will only cause trouble.
Great info.
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I have a Hays billet flywheel and was planning on a single disc clutch for 500hp.
Not set on any brand but what do you mean by modern clutch?
Txs again.
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I have the '85 Chevy 1Ton master cylinder and a GM performance parts LS1 TOB. Works great no issues. I also put a remote bleeder on it so I can bleed it with everything together.
txs for the info

What clutch / flywheel setup are you using?

Is the engine a LS1 and what hp?

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Originally Posted by Gale Banks 80'
I would assume that both of these are Two Line systems, which means there is the work line going in, and a bleeder line coming out. I would not install a single line system. Sounds like You all ready have a 3/4" Master, that is the one size fits all, and should work OK. If it is to quik to engage, and or You want less peddle pressure, start reducing the master size. This is something You will just need to figure out once You have the system going.
Both are 2 line systems.
Txs for the info
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Originally Posted by bmans vette
txs for the info

What clutch / flywheel setup are you using?

Is the engine a LS1 and what hp?

Bman
No LS1... Just a ~400 hp (not a 427 like my user name suggests) SBC with a 2pc RMS.
ACT 12lb steel flywheel with a centerforce dual friction clutch. Quicktime SBC to T56 scatter shield.
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Originally Posted by vette427-sbc
No LS1... Just a ~400 hp (not a 427 like my user name suggests) SBC with a 2pc RMS.
ACT 12lb steel flywheel with a centerforce dual friction clutch. Quicktime SBC to T56 scatter shield.
Are you using the Quicktime model 6023?

Txs for the info.
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I should have just let you drive my Vette when you were here. I do not use a H-clutch. My cage was setup for small guys like me 5'10" and 172 pounds.

I just don't think that H-clutch setups give the feel......... and modern high power handling clutches these days are so lite on pedal pressure that I have not seen the need.

1st gear overall gear ratio has alot to do with what flywheel weight you can get away with. yes and motor TQ in the sub 2000 rpm.
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